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140950406 over 2 years ago

Hello,

For buildings, it as always advised not to draw according to aerial imagery. Even orthophoto contains some distorsion; if you look at aerial imagery of different years, you will find out that houses seem to relocate every time. We won’t do this in OSM.

I think the "topomap" provided by geoportail.lu provides an accurate—and stable—outline of buildings.

140900761 over 2 years ago

Indeed, copy/paste error, this is ref:UrbIS.
Fixed, thanks for having spotted the issue.

141134636 over 2 years ago

Hello,

I am afraid the name is not exactly this. I wouldn’t trust UrbisAdm for items beyond property outlines and street names. (And even street names are sometimes wrong there.)

On this website run by ULB, they use the old name.
https://musees.ulb.be/fr/jardin-botanique-jean-massart

The park is run by Leefmilieu Brussel
https://leefmilieu.brussels/burgers/de-vernieuwing-van-de-botanische-tuin-jean-massart-jaarverslag-2022?highlight=massart

Look at this image, I think this should be considered the official name, which is half-way between the old name and the one you found.
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1927845350936656
→ Since this looks like the official sign at the entrance of the park, this is probably the correct name.

What do you think?

141114753 over 2 years ago

Hello,

I saw you made 25 edits in 3 different countries on your first day. I am puzzled by some tags.

Take this building here:

It had "addr:housename=Frobisher Crescent".
You added "name:en=Frobisher Crescent".

I presume this should be fixed. First, name:en is only for an English translation of a name in another language. This shouldn’t happen here: use the normal "name" tag instead of the translation, and remove the addr:housename.

Alternatively, you might consider using "building:name" to name buildings, especially when it has tags related to something else.

141106238 over 2 years ago

Done.

141104745 over 2 years ago

Thanks for adding pools but please fix tags.

Again, "swimming_pool=inground" is a tag to be used on an amenity (for instance a hotel) to say: "There is a swimming pool somewhere inside this place."

Never use this tag on a swimming pool itself.

Perhaps you meant "swimming_pool=outdoor". It is not mandatory but might be helpful.

141015569 over 2 years ago

Thanks for writing back. I am sure you have good intentions.

In general, brand:* tags suggestions for shops run by large companies are correct. With some exceptions: I found a bookstore created by Raphaël, which iD assumed to be a German brand. And sometimes, the type of shop is controversial (is ASICS a shoes shop or a clothes shop, are Proximus/BASE stores telecommunication or mobile phone shops…) but I won’t personally fight for that.

Your changeset is not only about brands, e.g. there is a silly iD suggestion to disconnect advertising boards from the shelter despite the correct support tags are set. Or adding names on charging stations. Or assuming that the ground entrance of an underground car-park should have layer=-1…

Of course, you did not code iD and you are not responsible if they ignore most suggestions to fix their buggy editor. At least we had this discussion and you will know that one must exercice caution when accepting suggestions, otherwise it becomes a mechanical edit, which is generaly frowned upon.

Enjoy your mapping break.

141019060 over 2 years ago

Hello,

Would you please be so kind as to make sure to write meaninful changeset titles when uploading data.

BE, BE1, BE2… provide no useful information (it is fairly obvious that the changeset touches objects in Belgium.)

In particular, I am curious the choice to name parking entrances or lift gates with the full name of the amenity behind. What is the rationale behind this, please?

141015569 over 2 years ago

Hello,

Your changeset corrupts some data.

Please NEVER blindly follow tagging suggestion of an editor, especially not the iD editor.

iD is a simple editor aimed at new users, it should not be used for large-scale operations.

iD’s suggestion index contains several controversial presets which we are trying to convince the devs to remove. Please be considerate of the work done by other mappers. We spent considerable time getting tags right so that many third-party apps can re-use data. It is fairly saddening to see someone coming and click-click-click-click on every option in iD and change hundreds of objects.

Have a nice day.

141015612 over 2 years ago

Hello,

This part of your changeset has been reverted.
way/521632200

There is no "wood" there. I have been looking at your latest changes, it looks like you are doing massive armchair mapping without going to places. If you want to do that, you may continue upgrading brand tags on shops—though a unique changeset through an Overpass query might save everyone hassle—but please do not touch urban landscape.

Also, please provide meaningful changeset descriptions. "De Neuville" does not relate to anything in this changeset.

Have a nice day.

140963632 over 2 years ago

Hello,

It looks like you added lots of personal bookmarks in Organic Maps during a recent trip and inadvertently uploaded them to OSM. On the contrary, if uploading all of this onto the map was wanted, here are some guidelines to help you make better contributions in the future.

Your edits seems to add several missing points to the map, which is quite useful.

However, there is an obvious abuse of the "name" tag. The name of a feature in OSM is exclusively for objects that do have a name (streets have names, shops have names, churches or temples usually have names too). Do not use it to write what looks more like a description. Also, in OSM we use tags to make it sure that objects are properly identified: that is how objects are rendered with a correct icon and can be searched by category.

node/11175751640
name=Hindu temple
→ Should be religion=hindu

node/11175714344
name:en=Church
→ Should not have a name, maybe building=church and religion and denomination tag

node/11175714342
name:en=1000 for foreigners plus more for vehicle
→ Providing a full description of the current fare is nice but this should rather go to the description or fee tags.

node/11175761040
tourism=attraction + name=Painted rock, steps to the left go up to the monastery
→ ???

node/11175761444
name:en=Buy ticket here for Hatra, 25000, bring your passport
→ Obvously, instructions such as "Bring your passport" should never be added to a name.

node/11175761461
amenity=restaurant + name=Many shops and restaurants
→ We get the idea and we understand that one can not make a full survey, especially during holidays, but maybe add one restaurant and one shop, do not put a name and put a fixme somewhere in one of them to briefly mention it is just one among many. Anything but using the name tag for this.

node/11175761468
tourism=information + name:en=Next part of road 4wd only
→ Of course I could not verify whether there is really an informational board here saying this. (That would make it clear whether this is an official recommendation by the authorities or your own POV about a difficult road.) But the best way to convey this information would be to edit the road, for instance through a dedicated tag: 4wd_only=*

node/11175761539
tourism=information + name=Gate locked, no exit
→ Probably not to map as an information board but as a gate, adding access=no. This is how we make sure that routers that use OSM data will know they may not route people through this point.

node/11175714338
tourism=attraction + name:en=Lighthouse
→ Unless this point is really an "attraction", which seems unlikely on a tiny island, the correct way to tag a lighthouse is with this: man_made=lighthouse. And no name.

Hope this helps.

140957027 over 2 years ago

The rooftop bar is already on the map.
node/11005511496

Your edit has been reverted.

Please make sure to always check against current data. Be aware that most Organic Maps install use cached map data that is not always up to date.

140954446 over 2 years ago

FYI, bicycle_road is only used in Germany, for a special type of road (only car-drivers with a resident permit are allowed to use it → OSM-based routers assume it is closed for cars.)

Cycle streets in Belgium, Netherlands and many other countries use the regular "cyclestreet=yes" tag.

We fixed it.

140936303 over 2 years ago

Hello,

Nice effort to use UrbisAdm to draw buildings. May I recommend you zoom a little bit more when drawing buildings, to draw the node on the correct location.

I had to fix your 3 latest edits, because every time the building seemed *grossly drawn* but did not really match the outline.

Happy mapping. ;-)

140930989 over 2 years ago

Hello,

Thanks for this.

A few words, however…

This is a bilingual territory here and language issues are very sensitive in Belgium. Changing a bilingual name to force a monolingual name is not appreciated (this might even be considered as vandalism when it is done deliberately or repeatedly).

Also, please be aware that there were name:* tags, as well as name:etymology:wikidata on the way. I can see that you have over 4,000 contributions in OSM, so you are not a newbie and are expected to know that you may not change a name and leave associated tags with the old values.

Don’t worry, I fixed this one but I thought it might be useful to let you know.

Have a nice day.

140810108 over 2 years ago

Your changeset has been reverted.

Please do not arbitrarily change building shapes just to please some validator. This is not a game.

This is a shopping mall with a road on the roof. We had properly tagged the road with layer=1. Even though it "intersects" the building, the layer tags make it clear that they are on separate levels.

Looks like a false positive with MapRoulette → I suggest you report this problem to the devs instead.

140785468 over 2 years ago

Merci pour la correction des numéros.
Nous avons changé les relations aussi, qui sont liées avec les bâtiments.

Attention : ne jamais écrire le code postal et le nom de la commune dans l’adresse des bâtiments, merci.

Have a nice day.

140784912 over 2 years ago

Hello and thanks here.

Thanks for adding addresses.

Just one thing: there are 2 official languages in Brussels, not just one. We must make sure that the map can be used in any language.

If StreetComplete asks you for a street name, you should provide the full name. Hint: it lets you tap on the street itself and the correct name will be filled automatically.

I fixed this one. Have a nice day.

140779977 over 2 years ago

Bonjour,

Bienvenue sur OSM, et merci pour l'ajout.

Nous avons corrigé car il y a un "excepté vélo" sur cette rue. OSM est utilisé par tous les modes, ce n'est pas une carte uniquement pour voitures, donc "oneway:bicycle=no" est à ajouter aussi.

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=3033649806952303

Happy mapping.

140771126 over 2 years ago

Hello,

It is preferable to avoid Roman numerals in names, those cause problems with third-party apps, also with Osmose and other Q/A apps.

So, Leopold II, not Leopold Ⅱ for the "name" tag.

(I see that his name is not spelled exactly the same in French and Dutch, one has an accented character.)