zluuzki's Comments
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| 123113974 | over 3 years ago | "they do not have any railways or rails" - Yes - if they had, it would be railway=disused.
"There are no longer rails, and OSM guidance is to map what is physically on the ground." - If used correctly, railway=abandoned is physically on the ground because it implies that there are traces/remmnants of an old RR. I don't care over wiki-principles. If you want to convince me that you are improving data quality by deleting the ways, then explain to me exactly where the improvement is. My point with the link of the abandoned yard in atlanta was to give an example of when deletion would improve the overall data quality; because it would get too cluttered otherwise.
"I encourage these "historical" railways with no "on the ground" presence to be added to OHM (OpenHistoricalMaps) instead. " - Sounds good in theory, but it is nonsense currently. First of all, you cannot just move things from OSM to OHM because OHM uses a different licence. So everything in OHM has to be remapped completely from scratch, you can't reuse anything from OSM. Then lets suppose i do that and add an old route. I would still have more or less data garbage, because i can't properly view it anywhere. The OHM database is empty, so if i want to view it on the main site i would have an random line somewhere with zero relation to the current world i.e. i have no idea where the line actually ran.
TLDR; OHM is useless IMO.
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| 123215313 | over 3 years ago | Because the orginal deletions blindly deleted all railway=abandoned in the area. It is not my responsibility to check every single track if i revert such vandalism. (As is said above, i checked a lot on a lot of tracks if railway=razed would fit better)
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| 123215313 | over 3 years ago | If i check the CS at https://osmcha.org/changesets/123215313/ and take a look at the green ways, I see traces on almost all ways. I tagged a few ones without traces as "razed". |
| 123215313 | over 3 years ago | railway=abandoned does not mean that there are still tracks.
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| 123113974 | over 3 years ago | No reply, reverted this and a few other changesets which blindly deleted all railway=abandoned you came across and damaged a few relations. |
| 123113974 | over 3 years ago | The only case where it might make sense to delete such ways would be if the track was really densely overbuilt and then there would be confusion/problems with the ways and the other data. However, this does not occur anywhere here.
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| 123113974 | over 3 years ago | Many of the deleted ways have very obvious traces, i.e. way/296352837
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| 122812097 | over 3 years ago | Of course it is no longer on the ground, rw=abandoned means that there are TRACES that a rail track was there, not that there are still TRACKS.
By the way: I'm certainly not going to use OHM. I think the project takes a completely wrong approach, is and will be unusuable for a very long time. |
| 122812097 | over 3 years ago | Not even 'historical' features. My arguments still stand... |
| 121508147 | over 3 years ago | Thanks for letting me know, I deleted those. ..and sorry for the late reply. |
| 117010679 | over 3 years ago | Na das "disused:railway=rail" würde ich dann aber auch noch entfernen. |
| 121645188 | over 3 years ago | Why are you removing pipeline flow directions?
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| 121199773 | over 3 years ago | Exactly. |
| 121206560 | over 3 years ago | Yes - PHMSA -> US DOT -> US GOV -> Public domain |
| 121234344 | over 3 years ago | Wikipedia
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| 121284109 | over 3 years ago | https://hub.arcgis.com/datasets/BRADD-KY::natural-gas-pipelines/explore - and they pulled it from the National Pipeline Mapping System, which is created by the Pipeline and Hazardrous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA) - they belong to the US Dept of Transportation, and USGov works are in the public domain. |
| 121566224 | over 3 years ago | The data can be found at https://mft.rrc.texas.gov/link/d4eda8c4-9ff0-43b7-8f19-da0a57f10fd2 |
| 120929377 | over 3 years ago | Texas Railroad Commision - state agency responsible for oil & gas industry. https://txarchives.org/tslac/finding_aids/10226.xml says "Most records created by Texas state agencies are not copyrighted[...]". There are no copyright marks on the data itself, neither on RRC's website.
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| 121483434 | over 3 years ago | Esri Imagery, there is a newly digged path. I will continue this if imagery gets updated. |
| 121570857 | over 3 years ago | Texas Railroad Commision - state agency responsible for oil & gas industry. https://txarchives.org/tslac/finding_aids/10226.xml says "Most records created by Texas state agencies are not copyrighted[...]". There are no copyright marks on the data itself, neither on RRC's website.
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