Hello,

I understand you are doing armchair mapping without knowing the local situation of countries you are changing.

We have said this several times to the owners of the numerous Bolt accounts who are editing here. Please make sure to spread the word with other Bolt employees, we are growing tired of repeating the same information and having to clean up the same mistakes endlessly.

The country here is Belgium. We have laws that stipulate that a one-way street can have an exemption for other modes of transport, sometimes for cyclists, sometimes for buses, or taxis, or light motorcycles… Every street is different and the road signs at the entrance of every street are the ultimate reference for this.

Here is a recent picture from Mapillary.
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=548889413657423

The red sign is very clear to understand, it means no entry for cars.
There is an additional white sign underneath. This says "except for bicycles".
In this street, cyclists may ride in both directions.
We add "oneway:bicycle=no" in such a case.

Adding oneway=yes without the expections would imply it is one-way for everyone, and it will prevent correct cycle routing in this area.
As a local community of mappers, we feel it is important to never forget those details. We do not build a map just for cars, we build a map for everyone.

I fixed this one, you don’t have to do it.

Happy mapping.

Hello,

Your change has been reverted.

This is a very special situation here, this is not a one-way street. We spent a lot of effort getting the map right, through intensive surveying and effort, and we worked with the city authorities to make sure our data was correct. We also make sure to explain the situation as accurately as possible in changeset titles, which are available for anyone opening the history of a way before touching it. (way/580840381/history)

You broke this in a 4-word changeset title, and your "Mapillary Images" source fails to show any one-way sign on this narrow part.

OSM is not just a map for cars, we use routing for other kind of vehicles, such as delivery vehicles, taxis, cyclists and more.

Hello,

Your edit broke cycle routing and cycle relations.

It looks like you are editing without local knowledge.

I want to inform you that in Brussels, most one-way streets have exemptions for other modes of transport, most often for cyclists. It is very rare to see a street with "oneway=yes" and no such exemption; we always endeavour to carefully review the road signs before updating the map.
I fixed this one and will review your other "oneway" changes.

Hello,

Yes, I believe you are right. I did not give enough attention to the definition of a village green, I had used it to match existing tagging practice I saw elsewhere. (And, honestly, there are way more important problems to fix on the map at the moment.)

I changed those to natural=shrubbery, it will be a much better match. I’ll do a few overpass queries now to look for other such landuse areas with the same problem.

Have a nice day.

Hello,

The address is still there, it belongs to the building.

When a POI is located inside a building that has a single address, it will automatically "inherit" the same address.

What’s the trouble exactly? Did you encounter problem with some software, requiring duplicating all the address information on every node?

Hello,

When I look at URBIS aerial imagery, which is the official reference in the Brussels Region, or at the numerical imagery we have, the tracks look less correlated to reality now than they were before you moved them. This node is one such example: node/5643667566

Any reason why you chose to use AIV Flanders imagery instead? And even with that imagery, I don’t see why the tracks should be drawn next to where they are. Anything we should be aware of?

Proper street names in Brussels are written like this: "Rue Edith Cavell - Edith Cavellstraat"

In StreetComplete, there is an option to click on the street, so that it will fill it automatically.

But the main problem here was that there was already a housenumber 19 next door and you added a second duplicate housenumber 19 here.

Don’t worry, we repaired the map here.

addr:street="Edith Cavell"
Seriously?

Hello,

I have been trying to contact you about your recent works to change the rendering of the map around Atomium.

Some changes are really puzzling. It looks like you are doing this in the iD editor and validation errors keep popping up in this area.

Just one example with this building:
relation/15484490
You cut it into two U-shapes, joined into a multipolygon.

"problem solved by cutting in parts", you say.

I plan to review this area in the next days but would you please be so kind and explain what you are trying to achieve here. Is there a rendering problem with one particular app or layer? Or 3D mapping here? So that we can understand what you wanted to do, and help you.

Hello,

We had to revert your edit.

The recycling container you updated is run by "Bruxelles-Propreté - Net Brussel", it only collects glass bottles.

There is another, separate, container for clothes, run by "Les Petits Riens - Spullenhulp".

Since those are two separate operators, they are two different objects on the map, we should never mix them, otherwise it becomes impossible to follow them.

Hope this helps. Have a nice day.

Hello,

Just for your information, "CIRB/CIBG most recent aerial imagery" or "AIV Flanders imagery" are not obtained by "satellites" but by aircrafts flying at low altitude. ;-) (I guess people are used to say think imagery is pictures taken directly from satellite because of G*Maps.)

I did some minor fixes, otherwise the change is mostly fine.

OK, thanks for warning with a fixme.

We removed this node, it is a duplicate of node/9199169371

Hello,

In version #19 of this road, you removed the contraflow access for cyclists in this street:
way/25164948

It looks like StreetComplete (v.50.2) asked you to indicate what kind of cycling infrastructure there is. There are options to say "no infrastructure", the first one will remove cycle access, and the second one will keep it. When changing such an important tag, StreetComplete will explicitely ask you to confirm that cyclists may not legally use the streets in both directions.

I did not see any such restriction when passing by. May I enquire if you noticed something particular here? Is that a mistake when you were using the app?

Hello,

Have you checked this street recently?

The oneway:bicycle=no tag was removed 4 days ago here. Have you surveyed it in the last days or checked with the user who removed it, if there was something special in this street?

Hello,

Splitting the area in small parts might please the validator if your objective is to get rid of warnings… but does not seem to make any sense.

There is a continuous area under the Atomium. All these recent changesets give the impression the objective is only to make the standard layer look nice, at the expense of correctness and even basic routing.

Would you mind explaining what is going on here?

Hello,

This situation has been discussed multiple times, we even have a recent note nearby asking to restore paths that have been deleted
note/3551506

We have a policy about this kind of cases, i.e. it’s better to leave private or "illegal" paths on the map, with access=no. Otherwise, the next day a new mapper comes in, adds the "missing path" and fails to set access permissiosn correctly, ruining the effort.
osm.wiki/Why_we_won%27t_delete_roads_on_private_property

We restored the litigious paths.

Hello,

Nice but please read the tags carefully next time.
Look and you will see that the phone number was already set "contact:phone" is the modern way to add contact details.
No need to duplicate it by repeating the same number under the "phone" tag.

Hint: in the iD editor, always look at the "Tags" list at the bottom of the window, do not rely on their small list of presets because it hides some of the existing data.

Why did you break the multipolygon for the square?
relation/5814398/history

Hello,

Thanks but beware of one thing: we do not just make a map for car drivers but we should care about all road users.

Declaring a street as entirely one-way without looking at exceptions will break routing.

There are white M2 and M4 signs on this street, granting an exemption for cyclists. It is important to add this too in the tags.

We fixed it.

Have a nice day.

Thanks for replying.

OsmAnd~ does not read real time information from the database, the map is always stored locally on your phone.
You can trigger an update every now and then: Download maps > Updates > Live updates > Belgium > Update now.

I see all the POI, you may have to zoom a lot, though: https://multimob.be/uploads/oand_230209-stdenis.png

In StreetComplete (same ShopsOverlay as you were using), I see all the shops, both old and new:
https://multimob.be/uploads/sc_230209-stdenis.png

I will try to clean it in the next days, so that you don’t have to do it, but indeed you may want to check in detail if your app is showing the right objects.