Hej Niels,

Du har helt ret. Jeg kan i dag ikke huske eksakt, hvorfor jeg taggede hastigheden forkert. Bare at jeg kørte gennem Birkende og opdagede en eller anden fejl i forbindelse med ensretningerne omkring kirken.

Tak for rettelsen. Jeg kan have lavet lignende fejl, og skal holde nok holde øje med det.

Med venlig hilsen
Michael

Hello,

It was only a temporary note meant for myself while working on the correct height of a building and a roof.

Everything fixed now and the note is deleted,

Best regards
MicDK

Hej igen,

Godt forslag med at bruge landcover. Jeg prøver det.

De bedste hilsner
Michael

Hej Linus,

Mange tak for de pæne ord om min mapping. Jeg går i gerne ned i detaljerne, og jeg har kastet mig over 3D-mapping, hvilket ikke er det nemmeste - men alligevel
udfordrende ;-)

M.h.t. punkt 1, så er vi sådan set helt enige. Det er en problemstilling, jeg også har funderet over, og fra tidligere tider, har jeg lavet en del fejl. som jeg retter til, når jeg falder over dem.

"Surface" alene sammen med f.eks. asphalt/concrete/dirt giver en fejlmelding i Osmose. Den kan så ignorere, men bedre ville det være, at sætte en anden "landuse" på. Jeg vil som et forsøg ændre nogle af "de dobbelte commercials" ved Rundbuehallen til f.eks. Landuse=Asphalt + Surface=Asphalt. Vil så se, om det giver en fejlmelding hhv. om det gengives korrekt i F4Demo.

M.h.t. punkt 2, så har det resulteret i fejlmeldinger i Osmose. Surface=Dirt kan tilsyneladende ikke stå alene.

Det er lang tid siden, jeg har arbejdet på "Ryttergården", men jeg vil følge med i, hvad du laver her. Vi er heller ikke uenige her, men jeg ville nok gøre et eller andet for, at navnet "Ryttergården" ikke skal dukke op på hver eneste lille "surface". Ved ikke hvordan, men det er ikke noget, jeg går i gang med som det første.

De bedste hilsner og "keep on mapping"
Michael

Thanks Mateusz,

It's a mistake and I will correct it. Maybe the cat walked over the keybord :-)

Best regards from Denmark
Michael

I think it would be helpful if you start by reading my comment and only then answer specifically.

I was still mapping this newly built area. Most of the buildings and roads are constructed today, but only some of them are shown in aerial photos from autumn 2024. I'm hesitant to mapping the whole area until we have even newer aerial photos from spring/summer 2025.

Your approach seems to be pure vandalism. Without any prior questions to men, just deleting my newer mapping, claim it was wrong and finally mapping the area again to make in render i OSM according to older outdated areal photos.

Please refrain from this in the future.

(And by the way, I know what blue needles in Osmose means)

Hello

You have deleted my mapping of the urban residential area Banevænget near Svendborg Vest. This is wrong, and has caused a lot of "blue needles" in Osmose.

You have mapped after old aerial photos instead of refraining from deleting my correct drawings, or map after the latest conditions on the site. Aerial photos from the fall of 2024 already show that the road Banevænget is partially built, and some homes have also been built.

I have inspected the site and for the time being limited myself to drawing the road as planned, and would return later instead of drawing the new buildings. Unfortunately, I now have to recreate what you have deleted without asking first. Please refrain from this kind of actions in the future.

MicDK

Hello keepright!

Thanks for your kind answer to which have a few comments.

1) I agree with you that driveway should not be used in this way. I have had this discussion with others, and we agreed on using landuse=garage or garages for areas in front of a garage or garages.

Regarding driveways to single houses, they are very rarely mapped in Denmark. Driveways like these are self evident when they are directly placed next to a road with common access.

2) Yes, F4 Demo doesn´t render the height of steps, so it will be best to use height as relative to normal ground (0 meters).

I agree with you, that stairs shall be used only indoors, and steps shall be only br used outdoors. I haven't been consistent but I will take notice and attempt to correct this from now on.

3) Yes, you're right. Building=portal is used by me to obtain proper rendering in 3D.

The OpenStreetMap definition of buiding is quite wide, but a portal still is a fixed man made construction. For that reason I consider the use of building=portal for acceptable.

4) The same goes for building=steps. They are fixed man made constructions, and there are examples of how steps are rendered in the same manner as I do.

Please check out this link:
osm.org/edit#map=20/43.8382446/4.3562270

For that reason I consider the micromapping of building/building_part=steps for acceptable. Not that everyone absolutely should map steps like me. Only in order to make steps rendered in the best possible way in 3D.

My best regards
Michael alias MicDK

Hello,

I always micromaps steps connected and leading to the entrance of a house as part of a whole building. Others does the same. This is in order to create a realistic 3D image of a complete building.

I made a small research related to the difference between stairs and steps. I'm okay with using steps when we are outside and stairs when we are inside. Thanks for pointing this out.

Our changeset has distorted my earlier 3D mapping because the single steps has disappeared. Please look here:
https://demo.f4map.com/#lat=55.0379453&lon=10.6041718&zoom=21&camera.theta=66.142&camera.phi=-136.479

That's why I intent to redraw the steps as part of the complete building. Building->Steps is present in taginfo for building

I ask for your kind understanding.

Best regards
MicDK

Hello Andreas,

It's not customary to name private driveways with the names of the streets, the driveways are connecting to.

Service ways are usually not named, but they can be if its fx. helps navigation.

Therefore I'm considering to remove "Sønder Vornæsvej" from the driveways you previosly have named bot not from the service way to three separate adresses. I hope for your understanding.

Link: service=driveway

Best regards
Michael

Many thanks, SomeOneElse

Hello,

I was in Brussels around the 19th of September, and I made some changes around where I stayed. Looked at new Google Maps from March 2023 and saw some other oneway markings of some roads.

If there has been a change in August, then please revert my changes. Although I'm completely sure, that Rue Verde was not blocked for traffic near "Au P'tit Delice", because I visited this shop.

Sorry for the inconvience. You're right when you have solid local knowledge.

Best regards
Michael

En lille ting mere.

Blandt rettelserne er det egentlig kun "Kogtved", som lever op til at være en "suburb" = en forstadsbebyggelse over et større område"

Med undtagelse af Hallindskov Huse, som må defineres som en "hamlet", så er der i de andre tilfælde tale om "neighbourhoods" = dele af Svendborg by eller dets forstæder.

Bemærk navnet på vejen "Hallindskovvej". Det er den korrekte lokal stavemåde.

Skrevet i al venlighed :-)

place=suburb

Klostervænget er ikke nævnt sammen med andre bydele Svendborgs Kommuneplan, af den enkle grund, at stednavnet er gået helt ud af brug, som et stednavn for arealer, der lå omkring det gamle gråbrødrekloster, som blev nedlagt i 1536-37. De sidste rester blev nedbrudt i 1875.

https://kommuneplan.svendborg.dk/hovedstruktur/lokalomraader/svendborg-bymidte/

https://museumodense.dk/artikler/franciskanerklostret-i-svendborg/

Navnet var knyttet til nogle lave arealer mellem klosteret og langs Svendborgsund. Ikke til høje arealer der, hvor Assistens Kirkegård ligger i dag. Her er navnet som en bydel under alle omstændigheder derfor fejlplaceret.

Kysten gik i middelalderen længere ind i mod det lave område sydvest for Svendborg Sygehus. Her ligger nutidens veje "Klostervænget" og "Lille Klostervænge".

Hvis man absolut vil placere stednavnet "Klostervænget" et eller andet sted i Svendborg, så skal det være her. Nord for jernbanen, omfattende de nævnte veje og området afgrænset af "Jernbanevej", "Sankt Jørgens Vej" og "Baagøes Allé". I mine øjne er det dog en unødvendighed, da vejen gennem området allerede bærer navnet "Klostervænget".

Hej,

Klostervænget findes ikke som stednavn i Svendborg. Det er derimod en sidevej fra Sankt Jørgens Vej længere mod sydvest.

Med venlig hilsen
Michael
"lokalkendt" ;-)

Hi,

I ended up using landuse=garages as the best compromise. It's rendered in carto and the surface is rendered in F4Demo,

No problem - I think.

Landover is used on an area which is landuse=residential.

:-) Michael

Hello again,

Okey :-)

This solution would be fine for me, but i reckon highway would need a common node with a nearby road.

highway=service
service=driveway
area=yes
surface=*

So I'll try landcover=paving_stones first.

Kind regards
Michael

Thanks Marc,

As it is a driveway, I would actually still prefer to use landuse=driveway. But I'm not seeking to "disturb" the common way to use "driveway" on roads only,

Landuse=service seems somewhat unprecise to me.

I have occasionally used landuse=paved (+ surface), and this is also more commonly used when I'm checking it in Taginfo.

Would that be a way to do it?

Kind regards
Michael

Helle Marc,

I was recommeded to do so by another experienced mapper, although it's not standard use of "driveway".

This is to map areas on private ground in front of private houses with traffic to the house, as there doesn't seem to be other appropriate types of landuses. Mapping driveways as small roads wil just clutter the map, without giving any real meaning.

By mapping driveways as areas I can also add surfaces, which are visible in 3D-

I'm open to other ways of mapping these landuses for driveways. Do you have suggestions.

Kind regards
Michael