Gibt es Alternativen?

@JoergZdarsky
Wie schon gesagt: zum Auffinden von Fehlern voellig in Ordnung. Nur die Daten fuer die Verbesserung muessen aus der Beobachtung kommen.

Beispiel: Das Einbahnstrassenschild an der Strasse, nicht der Einbahnstrassenpfeil im Referenznavi (der koennte ja auch mal falsch sein).

Ich denke ueberigens das das eine der groessten Gefahren bei der weiteren Verbreitung von OSM ist. Das Kartenmaterial wird schnell von vielen genutzt, die Philosophie und das (rechtliche) Verstaendnis der Lizenz breitet sich aber weitaus langsamer aus. Solange OpenStreetBugs als 'Filter' dazwischenliegt ist es nicht so schlimm, wenn Leute ploetzlich Sachen bei Google Maps oder in ihrem Navi nachschlagen. Der eigentliche Edit erfolgt ja dann auf Basis anderweitig recherchierter Daten. Wenn die Leute aber alle erstmal den direkten Edit Knopf bei OSM endeckt haben....

Hab letztens erst eine Umfrage gehoert, wo leute mal wild mit dem Begriff Open Source konfrontiert wurden. Der gemeinsame Nenner war, dass das kostenlos ist. Aber von Freeware (die ganzen Google Tools) bis Trailversionen (mein 'Open'office ging nach 60 Tagen nicht mehr) war alles dabei. Von Quelloffenheit redete keiner. Von Lizenzen schon garnicht.

Bitte benutze zum Korrigieren von OSM nicht dein normales Navi. Das ist leider keine erlaubte Quelle.

Das 'Auffinden von Bereichen ohne Daten' ist zwar nach allgmeiner Ansicht Fair Use, das nutzen der Informationen zur Verbesserung von OSM aber nicht. Also am besten nur korrigieren, was du auch auf der Strasse siehst.

Hallo, willkommen bei OSM.

Stoebere doch ein bischen im Wiki, dort findest du viele Anregungen, wie du OSM helfen und die Karte verbessern kannst. Vom einfachen Markieren von Fehlern mittel OpenStreetBugs, dem schnellen Korrigieren von Daten mit dem Potlatch Online-Editor, dem Nachzeichnen von Satellitenbildern bis zum Aufzeichnen eigener GPS Daten und dem Hinzufuegen mittels JOSM.

Bitte informier dich auch im Wiki ueber die erlaubten Datenquellen. Bitte nicht von Google Maps abzeichenen usw..

Viel Spass!

We desperatly need some mechanism to stop those spammers!

Getting more and more spam here. Time for a captcha?

@ALE!

Well I smell legal trouble with this kind of reasoning.
They opted in to be in the phone book, not to be on OSM.

To conclude a certain mindset from this is, well, brave.

Of course the data in the phone book is PRACTICALLY public, but so is Google Maps, Flickr, Myspace, Facebook, even TV. And you wouldn't dare to believe a movie is 'public' because it showed on TV last night.

I think I'm going with the 'has sign towards the street' thing. It's more in line with the 'as the street name reads on the sign' thing osm does with the maps.

Another point beside the usefullness for osm is the consideration between the people who want to find things and the people who maybe don't want to get found.

I believe opt-in is the only fair way to do it, but in no way practical.
So we have to fall back to some guessing like: when he's putting a sign out, he want's to get found. And I pesonally don't count door bells as signs.

Hey, I'm glad that so many of you responded to my question.

Even if the sample size is small, I would say the average opinion is: tag those names, if they are on a sign.

I don't think the phone book point is valid, as (at least here in Germany) phone books are 'opt-in' by legislation. OSM is not.

I want to especially thank drlizau for his inside view. I won't tag names that are not on a public sign anyway.

As for the lawyers and engineers: I only would map businesses that have an 'open door' policy. That's where you don't generally need an appointment but simply walk in. Like shops, doctors, pharmacys etc., but not lawyers, engineers or offices of companys. even if they have a sign.

Or what is your opinion on that? Wait, I think I'll do another diary entry for that one.

On a G5 Mac you don't have Java6.
Even SoyLatte (an altenative Java6 implementation for Mac OS <=10.4) needs an intel proccessor.

Your only chance is to ask for the last Java5 version on the JOSM mailing list.

Have you considered putting it on osm.wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garmin/Download
?

Well most errors I encounter are missing turn restrictions. They are still a little bit harder to tag than just roads and intersections and, more importantly, you tend to not remember them when just mapping along a GPS trace.

@Ale_Zena_IT could you tell my the brand of your mp3 player? I've searched for one on this purpose, but found that usable voice recording was a feature which apeared at 50+ Euros first.

@amm I have a phone, yes. But all it can do is....well...phone. (Ok, it can do texts too). Definetly no java, no camera, no memory card, no bluetooth, no voice recording. But it's good to hear that JOSM handles conflicts gracefully by now.

@datalogg see my phones details above. But your last point is actually the biggest problem. Especially as I am not traveling alone. The enjoyment of holiday may be enforced if I fiddle too much with OSM stuff.

As I'm on Holiday, I will probably take thousands of pictures anyway. But mixing osm reference pictures with holiday photos is not a good idea. (And it will drain my camera battery quite fast.) I have to consider bringing along another small camera to do that kind of work.

I unfortunatly don't own neither a smartphone nor a PDA. So doing all the tracking, voice recording and image taking with one small device is out of option. Actually the only device which lasts for days on batterie is my GPS device. My netbook will last for some hours, but is to complicated to use while driving. I don't know if I can convince my girlfriend to take the notes/photos.

I'm using http://www.itoworld.com to track edits in my town. It comes with rss feeds and nicely colored maps of who edited what in the last few days. Maybe there is an option to get tracks as well?

My edits aren't vissible too. I suppose it's taking a while longer than usual to render tiles due to the API change. As long as your edits are visible in the history tab or in potlatch/JOSM you are fine.
Just be patient.

Doesn't work on Safari(MacOS10.4). Brings up a lot of dialog boxes stating the browser does not support textFill() (about 20 of them) which you have to click away. It completely hangs the browser in the meantime.

While this may be a browser bug, you may want to make in fail in a more pleasant way.

Btw: do you know how the 'end of editing' is handled with potlatch?

I've noticed that in the history tab my session stays open a long time after I've finished editing. As there is no 'done' or 'exit' button in potlatch I simply close the browser tab.

Maybe this is (also) a reason for the edits-of-far-away-points-cause-a-giant-bounding-box-which-clutters-the-history-of-small-aereas-bug reported in another user diary. I haven't tested that, but does an open session continue if I start potlatch in another browser window and the history thinks I'm still edditing in the first one?

> Right now the priority is on fixing the remaining bugs in the API 0.6 support rather than nice-to-haves like this though, I'm afraid.

I'm with you there. I'm happy if you may keep it in mind for some spare time in the future.