User talk:Gastronomy
Seamark tagging
Please do not change seamark tagging without having discussed it before. Tag:seamark:building:function=harbour master and Tag:seamark:small_craft_facility:category=toilets. Seamark tagging is a special tagging scheme. I recommend reversing the changes and discussing them first. --Chris2map (talk) 14:01, 19 September 2025 (UTC)
- I don't get what's different in those offices or toilets compared to "usual" ones ? AFAIK Tagging_for_the_renderer is not recommended. I also wonder why nobody noticed the problem up to now. This example is perfect, completely invisible for any usual app except "the one for these tags" https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1901864664 Gastronomy (talk) 20:42, 19 September 2025 (UTC)
Indoor tagging
Hello Gastronomy,
you've changed and created a lot of pages related to indoor mapping recently. Mostly, these seem to involve the creation of new tags such as indoor=atm, indoor=shop, indoor=emergency, indoor=railing, indoor=stairs, indoor=highway and so on.
As far as I'm concerned, the established approach to map those features is to use the same tags for indoor and outdoor features. That is, use amenity=atm for atms, use shop=* for shops, and so on. Indoor features can be distinguished by adding level=* or, if you want to be really explicit, indoor=yes. I strongly prefer this established approach and believe that inventing, maintaining and supporting two sets of tags for the same concepts would make life harder for contributors and data users.
Were these changes discussed anywhere? --Tordanik 10:30, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hello Tordanik, thanks for reaching out. The tags (like shop,highway,stairs,elevator...) are widely used and I just documented them, see https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/indoor#values, https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/room#values (and "OSM Tag History"). If "level" implicitly means "indoor" (aren't there "outdoor" levels ?), it should be mentioned in the wiki to avoid this bunch of "indoor=yes" tags which aren't helpful for filtering. There are also a lot of usages like indoor=yes + stairs=yes (and some steps=yes) which could be easier expressed by indoor=stairs or room=stairs (a.s.o.). This would also avoid performance issues when searching for the respective entries (like in overpass). Besides, there are a couple of tagging "variants" which don't make it easier for data consumers (especially for stairs). I also think it's easier for mappers to "call it what it is" (instead of "inventing, maintaining and supporting several sets of tags". Just check the current "grown structure" (euphemism for "mess"). I tried to get this topic clarified a bit by documenting, another comprehensible approach would also be fine (e.g. to differentiate stairs with or without room, how to search for "all xyz" a.s.o.). Btw. do you have an approach for "rooms inside of rooms" ? Gastronomy (talk) 17:00, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Tens of occurrence aren't "widely used" in
indoor=railing,indoor=emergency. They can also be mistakes, or misunderstandings. You didn't compare them withindoor=yes, the dominant and documented choice.
Theseindoor=*of yours is exactly "unhelpful for filtering".shop=*/highway=*+indoor=yesis the standard method, "easier for mappers to "call it what it is"" for something indoors. This is "inventing, maintaining and supporting several sets of tags". Your query or reasoning is wrong if you think "This would also avoid performance issues when searching for the respective entries (like in overpass)". You are the one creating another ""grown structure" (euphemism for "mess")" by not clarifying and documenting why they are used properly. - Please discuss these before editing wiki if you find them wrong. They exist for good reasons.
—— Kovposch (talk) 07:41, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Tens of occurrence aren't "widely used" in