Proposal:Vehicle dismount
| Vehicle dismount | |
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| Proposal status: | Draft (under way) |
| Proposed by: | ManuelB701 |
| Tagging: | dismount:*=*
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| Applies to: |  
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| Definition: | Specifies whether guiding a vehicle when dismounting is legal or not |
| Statistics: |
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| Draft started: | 2025-08-17 |
Proposal
This tag deprecates access=dismount in favour of dismount:*=* to separate access (and by extension, designation) with a ridden vehicle and access with a guided / dismounted vehicle (e.g. bicycles).
Rationale
The inclusion of access=dismount, especially for bicycle=dismount, has caused some problems with the interpretation of access=no on whether pushing the vehicle / guiding a horse also is forbidden or not. In addition access=dismount stands in conflict with other access values such as designated, as paradox as the situation is, where the act of dismounting is not required but still recommend.
To solve the problem, access=dismount and its variations gets replaced by dismount:*=* (prefix to a Transport mode).
Tagging
Add dismount:*=* with a suffix of the corresponding Transport mode (e.g. dismount:bicycle) on a way or area (for highway=pedestrian areas) and add either of these values:
| value | description |
|---|---|
| yes | It's permitted to push a vehicle / guide a horse on a way and is the primary method of transportation. Implies it's forbidden to ride the vehicle/horse. |
| designated | It's explicitly signed to push a vehicle / guide a horse on a way. Implies it's forbidden to ride the vehicle/horse. |
| recommend | There is an explicit sign which tell users that dismounting a certain vehicle is recommend even is riding it on the way is allowed. |
| no | It's forbidden to push a vehicle / guide a horse on a way in any shape even if walking is allowed |
The tag only makes sense to be added where foot access is permitted (this includes restrictive values like foot=use_sidepath where depending on the local law, one is recommend if not required to push the vehicle on a parallel way because the corresponding sidewalk is too narrow) or in other words, foot=no implies dismount:*=no.
Note that the opposite is not true: Not everywhere where you can walk on allows you to carry a vehicle (e.g. most shops forbid cyclists to carry their bicycle into them).
The tag shall also be used on all elements which deviate from the norm and ambiguous cases and should not be added in the usual case.
dismount:*=* is independent of the corresponding transport mode i.e. the existence of e.g. dismount:bicycle=designated does not imply bicycle=no. In fact, this tag can also be used on ways where riding the corresponding vehicle is explicitly allowed (e.g. bicycle=designated) but you're still asked to push them instead as seen on the photo above (in which case use designated).
Note that other access values are not included to reduce the ambiguity with restrictive accesses as well as to keep the tagging thereof simple (e.g. if dismount:bicycle=yes would override foot=customer or not — the intend is to not override foot=customer).
Examples
Note that the tagging only affects the relevant access tags and not e.g. *.
| Image | Description | Old Tagging | New Tagging |
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Generic but narrow path on a bridge; cyclists are recommend to dismount there. |
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osm:way/1249554179 |
Designed foot- and cycleway where cyclists should dismount but are still allowed to cycle at full speed. |
or |
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 osm:way/18615552 |
Sign which tells you to explicitly dismount (in this case, between 10:00 and 22:00) |
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 osm:way/365852568 |
Middle sign tells you that "Entering with bicycle if forbidden, even if just pushing the bicycle" | ||
| More examples needed | |||
Features/Pages affected
- Creation of
dismount:*=*and its subkeys likedismount:bicycleanddismount:horse - Redirect of
dismount=*todismount:*=* - Discouraging the use of
access=dismountand its versions likebicycle=dismountandhorse=dismount(this is mostly for backwards compatibility, value can be deprecated in the future after a buffer).
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