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101427456 over 1 year ago

I removed the buildings added.

If thats now actually an improvement is debatable.

144469366 over 1 year ago

" removing way tags such as from nodes
You claim to to this in this edit. This is untrue."
You're long enough here to know that an JOSM CS with exactly 10,000 changed objects actually consists of multiple changesets, because 10k is the max amount of objects you can upload in one CS.
I don't remember this that exactly, but I have removed bad tags of this import from probably around 100k objects, so there are at least 10 similar changesets.

Random example CS of this series where 10k nodes were cleaned is changeset/144462938

"> discussion of automated edit?
ask this user tuxachanie who did the import

I did, received no answer and reverted their import."
So you did an automated mass edit too - by deleting everything. Where exactly have you discussed that mass edit then?

"imports that make thing worse"
explain: what exactly have I "made worse" by removing clearly false tags?
And how is that different from you removing the data alltogether?

144469366 over 1 year ago

so now im getting blocked because I forgot to reply to one random comment? why haven't you tried to write another comment a week or so later or send a private message as a reminder to this discussion???

discussion of automated edit?
ask this user tuxachanie who did the import, I only came across this and fixed some very obvious tagging issues such as
- removing way tags such as railway=abandoned from nodes
- removing obvious tagging mistakes such as "title=*" instead of name

We're seriously at a point where OTHER people make apparently undiscussed mass edits/imports, I do some rough cleanup, and then I get BLOCKED for doing so?? ..... this level of disrespect is unbelievable

148695728 almost 2 years ago

No way to fix incorrect features???
Assuming you have a TIGER imported road, 20 miles long between two towns, but with very rough/therefore incorrect aligment. You are going to adjust the geometry of the low quality nodes instead of deleting the entire 20 mile road.
And that's called "fixing".

If railway=abandoned ways are glued to other features like roads or boundaries, yes, this is incorrect mapping practice and should be fixed - by ungluing, and not just deleting.

DWG said one sentence: "don't map nonexisting features", and I generally agree with that, but again, we're talking about clearly existing features.

If you are unwilling to discuss controversial changes, then don't do them in the first place, and if you do but don't discuss anything, they will get reverted. So please engage with the changesets where I commented.

148695728 almost 2 years ago

"painstakingly retraced throughout the length" - Yeah, it's not possible to delete ways in the Id editor without following them. Wow.

Features are glued to other features? Then fix it instead of lazily deleting it.

If an alignment of a railtrail dosen't follow the rail ROW, then remove the railway=abandoned there instead of the entire trail.

Don't forget to reply my other comments on your mass deletions and please explain how the traces I pointed out don't actually exist, like you're claiming ("to make sure no trace exists").

127837288 almost 2 years ago

It was discussed on the Osmus slack channel a while ago.
But I don't know what is meant with "desciptive names".
Names like "X Gathering System"? That's not "descriptive" in this context, that's just ... well, the name, see e.g. https://cdn-gmlal.nitrocdn.com/COEFSwWOUXelieQTcxnmdtQFhbuAVPuh/assets/images/optimized/rev-f691760/www.enverus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Midstream_Top5.jpg
for the EOG Resources Eagle Ford East Gathering System.

Also names like "X to Y [Pipeline]" are quite common as being the 'official' name.

148528299 almost 2 years ago

Thanks for the reply. It seems that we have different understandings of what railway=abandoned means.
The way I am interpreting the wiki and have used it is that it doesen't mean "former railway" but instead "former railway still traceable".

Not everyone needs to be able to immediatly trace it from the ground - but it should be possible, and it is the case here.

The embarkments, tree lines, buildings alignments, railtrails, etc etc etc and heck, even the difference in vegetation color on farmland are still remnants that actually exist on the ground. Those features didn't just came out of nowhere - they're only there because there is/was a railroad right-of-way.
I don't see anything wrong with mapping that context, especially in times where micromapping like 3Dbuildings, manholes, road markings, parking spaces. etc is encouraged.

148693933 almost 2 years ago

way/1191749346 exists, treeline, 3DEP
way/1254959260,1254959261,1065975646,1254959266,1254959267,1254959264 exists, treeline, 3DEP

148694051 almost 2 years ago

way/1065975647,1254959261 clearly visible due to building/road alignment, tree lines, vegetation changes

148694650 almost 2 years ago

way/1254959310 clearly visible at 3DEP/vegetation
way/1254959309 existing due to building alignment
way/1254959308 existing due to field lines, tree lines, vegetation changes, building alignments

148673426 almost 2 years ago

way/782420318,264693301 very clearly existing due to treeline along entire line

148673643 almost 2 years ago

way/332359659 clearly visible on 3DEP/building alignment/cutting

148674878 almost 2 years ago

way/21732837 clearly existing at 3DEP, tree lines, vegetation (color) changes

148675101 almost 2 years ago

way/21735194 clearly existing due to tree lines, field lines, 3DEP, building alignments

148688174 almost 2 years ago

still exists, visible due to rail alignment

148688464 almost 2 years ago

way/323167104 exists, obvious treeline along entire line

148688810 almost 2 years ago

Both ways existing, clearly visible vegetation color changes

148690844 almost 2 years ago

way/167290782 exists, straightforward due to rail alignment
way/794428709 exists due field lines, tree lines
way/333016876 exists, railtrail, clear embarkment/shape
way/794428710 exists treeline
way/794428712,794428713,333017767 exists, treeline, 3DEP

148691735 almost 2 years ago

way/166769158 clearly visible along entire length due to treelines, field lines, building alignments
way/486414921 exists because of treelines
way/167035570 clearly visible within Maroa due to treeline/building alignment, outside not overbuilt & straightforward to interpret

148692071 almost 2 years ago

way/333019976 exists because of fences/alignment of the storage yard
way/333018660 exists because of clear vegetation changes/treeline
way/89149513 clearly visible on 3DEP, within a cutting