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133477246 almost 3 years ago

With this changeset, you've split the sidewalk along Celovška into 2 ways here but did not change the tags on these ways accordingly.

On the footway, there are now-meaningless tags like cycleway:surface, segregated, oneway, oneway:bicycle
way/727578786

On the cycleway, information about surface and street name are now lost: way/1150906093

133520406 almost 3 years ago

Please don't map separate lanes by individual ways. This is not how things are mapped in OSM. If there is no physical separation between lanes, you must not map them individually.

I advise you to read and understand osm.wiki/Highways#Carriageways

and
osm.wiki/Dual_carriageway

before you continue mapping.

133250856 almost 3 years ago

Hi!

Thanks a lot for your enthusiasm for improving the map. However, in order to avoid doing more harm than good, please start by taking small steps and by doing things you understand. As with many other things, there is a learning curve in OSM and it appears that you're trying to deal with things that you're lacking the necessary experience for. You severely risk putting off other mappers because they feel you're destroying the map, into which they have already put thousands of hours of voluntary work.

For example:

1) With this changeset, you've mapped a lot of simple sidewalks and traffic islands as pedestrian areas. Have a look at the wiki. This is not what the highway=pedestrian tag is meant for.

2) You've destroyed connections that exist in the real world. For example, after your changes, routing engines cannot anymore route cyclists from Celovška cesta way/1150942759 into Alešovčeva ulica way/867882743 because of changed layout and persisting oneway tags.

Likewise for cyclists riding southbound way/727578804 and wanting to turn into Na jami way/986464720.

3) Before your change, the sidewalk ways were very precisely aligned to a high-resolution aerial imagery. Now, they are not anymore.

4) You’ve mapped a fictional road which is not physically separated from other roads way/1152644580 . In OSM, we don’t map individual lanes (this is done via tags, not by mapping separate ways).

Your motivation and contribution is very much welcome. Eager mappers a desperately needed. But PLEASE PLEASE:

A) Don’t create huge changesets. Nobody will understand your intentions. Make small changesets and give these changesets meaningful comments, so others can understand what you’re trying to do.

B) Do only stuff that you understand.

C) Consult more experienced mappers or, even better, seek advice in the forum, in case you’re uncertain. https://community.openstreetmap.org

D) Keep in mind that OSM data is used for serious real-world applications like routing. A damaged map means that routers that rely on OSM data will deliver wrong results.

E) Run through OSM beginners’ guides and tutorials in order to get a rough idea of the basic workings.

If you have questions, please ask me or other mappers or the community forum https://community.openstreetmap.org. People are more than happy to help!

Happy mapping!
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(Note that changeset discussions like this one are public)

133518000 almost 3 years ago

*I meant to write "There is a parallel sidewalk which is mapped explicitly, SO foot=use_sidepath and especially bicycle=use_sidepath should be the correct tag." That might be a confusing typo, sorry

133518000 almost 3 years ago

Hi,

A couple of things:

1) You've changed foot=use_sidepath and bicycle=use_sidepath to foot=no and bicycle=no in Samova ulica, for example here: way/39603613

What was your reason for doing that?

There is a parallel sidewalk which is mapped explicitly, no foot=use_sidepath and especially bicycle=use_sidepath should be the correct tag.

2) Please split up your changes into smaller changesets so others can understand what you are trying to do.

3) For the same reason, please try to use more meaningful changeset comments than just "Tags."

133449377 almost 3 years ago

Hey,
which bus route exactly did you try to create? It appears that you accidentally created gaps in already existing bus routes.

If possible, it makes sense to split your contributions into smaller changesets, so it is more easy for others to understand what you're doing

130196457 almost 3 years ago

Sorry! I'm cleaning this up right now.

122336801 about 3 years ago

Hi,

after your edit, this part of Zaloška way/867093972 is tagged with bicycle=no + cycleway:right=lane

...which is obviously contradictory. Are bikes allowed here or not?

120463790 about 3 years ago

The questions had swiftly been answered by another mapper changeset/122725302

122725302 about 3 years ago

Nice! And apparently even with infrastructure for those weirdos called "cyclists"! :-)

122725302 about 3 years ago

Hi Jaka!

You tagged sidewalk=both on Cesta dveh cesarjev. way/327500693

However, last time I was there (which is a while ago), there was no sidewalk on neither side; just a soft shoulder.

This is also the case on 2020 aerial imagery. Has the situation changed in the meantime or should we correct this?

120463790 about 3 years ago

Hi!

You tagged cycleway=track on Cesta dveh cesarjev. way/327500693

However, last time I was there (which is a while ago), there was no cycle track on neither side. On 2020 aerial imagery, there is no track visible either. Has the situation changed in the meantime or should we correct this?

120703263 about 3 years ago

Hi!
It seems that you accidentally displaced way/622260002 with your edit (you moved the whole way by ~5m to the North West). I've just fixed that (changeset/129601703)

It would make it easier to understand your intentions if you comment your changesets.

Happy mapping!

119215516 about 3 years ago

I've tried to fix it.

124775517 about 3 years ago

Great, thanks!

124775517 about 3 years ago

Thanks for the clarificiation!

I've removed the sharrow tag from way/461406764

124775517 about 3 years ago

Hi,

You added cycleway:right=shared_lane to way/461406764

This implies that there are "sharrows" painted on the road (cycleway=shared_lane).

I don't think there are any such markings in the forward direction on this section of the road (only on way/887358256 and onward), but I'm not 100% sure.

118605921 about 3 years ago

Great job!

118605921 about 3 years ago

Good idea for the sub-page!

Just need someone motivated to do it... :-)

118605921 about 3 years ago

Oh nice, thanks! I wasn't aware of that wiki page. That's also the reason, why I created a bus-line section on the en:Ljubljana page a while ago: osm.wiki/Ljubljana

...which I think created some redundancy. I think in the long run, it would be good to have only one table and have the other wiki page simply link to that table.

The table in WikiProject_Slovenia/Javni_prevozi looks nicer to me, but it is not fully up to date.