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66443004 over 6 years ago

Although many rural roads in Greece are suitable for 4x4s, the current consensus is to connect all villages and hamlets with a tertiary road, using surface=* and smoothness=* to describe the condition.

Also, why are you not answering my concerns at changeset/66443000 and changeset/66443316, and also leave no meangful changeset comments at @Δημήτρης Μπαλτουμάς/history

64876393 over 6 years ago

What is the source for the erotic shop? It might be a typo or something.

69949783 over 6 years ago

I think it is a bit too early to call Free and Real a village right now, even though it is clearly nothing like Scientology.

I think it is more of a large-scale eco-focused community project at this time.

67482316 over 6 years ago

Roundabouts and their connectors use normal road types, and not links.

JOSM’s claim that the roundabout should be secondary is incorrect, because it connects two roads of a higher classification.

65677072 over 6 years ago

way/222895188 Should not be a motorway. it should be secondary link because that is the only way for traffic from the side road to get to Kymis.

69873595 over 6 years ago

This changeset has been reverted in accordance with the Prespa Agreement, which came into force on 8 February 2019. The country is now commonly known as North Macedonia.

If I recall correctly, OpenStreetMap takes a dim view of political disputes, and that OpenStreetMap does not want to be a battleground for any political disputes, including the Macedonian naming dispute.

Please take any political disputes to the General section of the NationStates Forum, and please maintain civility there. ;-)

69617882 over 6 years ago

UPDATE: We talked it through and it's all fine. I apologised to the editor for sounding harsh but the Crimea dispute had been really frustrating since OSM does not have to pick a side.

69617882 over 6 years ago

Hello again, when comparing this version of the Aegean Sea relation with the previous version, it appears that Sanwer removed the Macedonian names.

In absence of a good explanation, I see it to be politically motivated. Since OSM is not a political battleground, this could be grounds for a DWG report unless the user can explain the removal.

Sources:
osm.org/api/0.6/relation/4594226/128
osm.org/api/0.6/relation/4594226/129

65478333 over 6 years ago

I'm sorry if I sounded harsh again, I am not really coping well any more. I feel that the disputes in the Greek community is getting too much for me. BTW, I had to fix Koropi South junction because of another illogical motorway link: osm.org/#map=17/37.89954/23.90513 — Maybe you could create a small task to fix the motorway links in Greece.

65478333 over 6 years ago

I am not happy with this edit: you don't understand that the A62 ends just before the u-turn. Partly reverted by changeset/69724815.

63618443 over 6 years ago

Yes, the links on the middle of a lower-class road, on the grade-separated interchange, do not have motorway restrictions.

63618443 over 6 years ago

That and way/217799896 should be primary because that is the route for the EO83 traffic to access the roundabout. The opposite side stays as secondary because it has to cross another major junction before the traffic can join the EO83.

As for the second junction, and any grade separated junction, I was thinking more of osm.org/#map=18/51.70614/-0.38238 - I could not classify the crossing roads as motorway_link because it made no sense when it is sandwiched between two unrestricted roads. so there is a case for using secondary_link in this grade separated junction. I am also sure that there was a traffic flow relation at some point: in any case they exist because some routers … some routers sometimes recommend illegal turns without them.

63618443 over 6 years ago

Hello there,

For example: way/437409814 is not a motorway link because the tertiary side road merges into a motorway slip road in the process of joining a secondary road. It should realistically be secondary.

At way/561182489, the link roads that cross Tatoi should be a secondary link, because they are not part of a motorway. You also must be sure not to merge ways without checking that there is no turn restriction or traffic flow directive, which exist to reinforce the norms of Greek driving law.

Unfortunately, there is a user who thinks it is okay to map motorway junctions so crudely (see osm.org/#map=18/37.80333/22.73178), despite the fact that the remainder of the slip roads are motorway_link since there is "no escape".

I am very sorry for sounding harsh, this concern could have not come at a worse time when there is a serious community dispute over road names and numbers — it is so tempting to suggest organised editors to sit out while the crisis continues. My position is that "Odos" and "Leoforos" go to "name:prefix"=*, and that National Road (EO) numbers go to ref=* because they are in the law. I think that is a reasonable compromise.

69617882 over 6 years ago

^ Aww man, my grammar is awful. This could have not come at a worse time when there is a serious dispute over road numbers and road naming.

69617882 over 6 years ago

It seems that 69617882, 69617940 69618528 have unintentionally deleted valid data.

69617940 over 6 years ago

In this changeset, you deleted the relation for National Road 3.

69618528 over 6 years ago

You deleted a provincial road relation, but why? I think JOSM is behaving badly.

64941463 over 6 years ago

In this changeset, you removed a perfectly valid tunnel name that was signed.

63618443 over 6 years ago

I am not happy with how you assign some of the side roads to a motorway when it is really not, such as the slip roads on the Athinon.

69326934 over 6 years ago

Hi there, I kindly request that you be careful to ensure that the road numbers and formats are correct: you can discard the nat_ref value if it is wrong (the main motorway is numbered the A1 instead of the EO1).