i put a few quatloos on lack of awareness of mapping areas for, oh, pedestrian zones is what i see most.

since i've never bothered, i don't know if an area=yes with a polygon here will both fill out the renderer for the service drive (wait, yes, i have seen it somewhere, where it blotted out a building in the middle) and also fulfill the neediness of routing engines that seem to be getting maximum attention these days.

worth a try...

hallo nochmal

here you have deleted a connection road that is present in TIGER 2018, and plainly visible with detached accompanying pedestrian pavement, even if it appears there may be an access barrier for motorised vehicles. this had recently been added to the map.

can i ask your motivation in deleting this when it is clearly seen to be present, and apears to give access to an unmapped track? unless the imagery is two years outdated...

tanks

Hallo, me again...

after reading you mention a hiatus, i had to check your other changesets to see if your recent deletions were a one-off.

first, can you please use descriptive changeset descriptions - `changes with local NEO knowledge' means absolutely *nowt* to me, and means i have to look into a changeset where, had you instead written, `added building tag to amenity' your intent would have been clear, and if something went horribly wrong, it would be obvious.

anyway, i have a problem with this changeset, which can be visualised at
https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=58046248
to see it is again almost completely deletions.

the first two ways below i checked looking at their histories, looks very much like the sort of vandalism that accompanies pokemon go cheating.

can you explain what is your reasoning behind deleting the school grounds? this is the established way in osm that an educational institution is represented.

secondly, it appears you have taken an axe to a lot of trees along aurora road, again added by mapper TweedC. do they really no longer exist?

the only non-deletion per se i see is where you removed the name Shell from an auto repair shop, so if you were not intending to do what i see you have done here, then this can probably be reverted without conflicts despite its age, as i can see looking at the map to the right, there is no indication there are two school grounds at the bottom.

fear not, even though it is not efficient for me, i will continue looking through your changesets for further damage.

(if i am seeming somewhat confused or unclear, it is because i have been unable to get more than a few minutes of sleep the last days, and it is catching up on me, and i apologise)

thanks

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/65559642 where the changeset comment is: delete Yet Another bogus maps.me chalet, with the low quality of maps.me accuracy, this is as unlikely as a castle or alpine hut or any of the other common tagging abuses

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/65559602 where the changeset comment is: delete Yet Another bogus maps.me chalet, with the low quality of maps.me accuracy, this is as unlikely as a castle or alpine hut or any of the other common tagging abuses

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/65559538 where the changeset comment is: delete Yet Another bogus maps.me chalet, with the low quality of maps.me accuracy, this is as unlikely as a castle or alpine hut or any of the other common tagging abuses

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/65559472 where the changeset comment is: delete Yet Another bogus maps.me wilderness hut in the middle of a big city, osm only maps factual things that really exist

(a good place to see the density of detail-free residences and other buildings is in Nepal, where i found meself before returning here, by the way)

As i expected, the outline of the large Ford building corresponds well enough to the sales lot, so as i thought, it was a simple beginner mistake. the same mapper traced an outline of the neighbouring Enterprise auto-rental just west, but failed to add a building= tag to that, so its outline does not appear rendered to the right of these comments, only the icon.

user TweedC should have donated the building tag from the sales lot (which i dont know how to properly tag whether active, or a simple paved lot), to that rental office.

also, before considering deleting an item, please look into the lifecycle prefix, as that will notify armhair mappers like myself that the aerial imagery i used to check, no longer reflects the current revision of reality.

thanks.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/65556784 where the changeset comment is: restore deleted objects at the request of the mapper, resulting from a misunderstanding of osm and its guiding principles that we all hold most holy and sacred and devote ourselves tirelessly to occasionally bothering to think about doing something for

i'd give the ford one a closer look before deleting, it may well be meant to represent the carpark or business boundary.
your revert is underway.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/65554408 where the changeset comment is: delete Yet Another bogus maps.me castle as personal residence

the way osm works is that if something exists on the ground, it should be mapped.

if there is a reason to prevent access to a track or path, there are access tags that will indicate the legal status, as well as other tags to describe the condition of the trail. both of these will serve to prevent apps sending people onto the now-deleted-yet-existing roads.

when you say it is dangerous, remember it works two ways. if a track is visible, it's highly likely that someone without map guidance, like myself, will check it out, like i used to take a different way through the woods each time from one town to another just to explore the possibilities.

when they run into trouble, then there will now be nothing on the map to aid emergency responders in reaching the injured. that osm around me is so detailed and includes everything has resulted in emergency services preferring it as reference when responding, a status which would not have been reached without constant vigilance between some who want to restrict what osm can include, and those who want to keep it an accurate representation of the world with all its complexities.

the random tracks i checked were untouched import from the census TIGER data, which is known for its mediocre quality, such as positional inaccuracy and failure to include access tags or precise categorisation. rather than delete this governent data, mappers have been undertaking the herculean task to improve it when shown to be deficient, again a reason to respect the mapping work of others to improve the map, rather than deleting what happens to be inconveniently truthful that you might wish would disappear in reality if deleted from the map.

again, access=private or access=no would be fully adequate to cover the tracks that are off-limits to the general public.

you are wrong.

it is the eventual goal of osm to map every building and address throughout the world, for one. some areas are much further along, while most of the US is lagging maybe a decade or more behind.

your changeset as visualised consists solely of deletions, so it would be possible for me to restore everything with no damage. i would be happy to do that.

there was only one obviously wrong thing that you deleted, a large building which should have been some area, named Ford; mistakes like that can and should be deleted or better, fixed to be correct.

look around other parts of the country or the world for examples of how the us map will be looking in the coming years as more and more detail gets added.

the buildings without details will eventually get more details like address and more added to them, as osm contributors build upon the work of those who have mapped before them.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/65526372 where the changeset comment is: Please use your HOTosm projects only for mapping things that really exist, not as your own personal playground, thanks

anything that is only temporary for such a short time should not be added to OSM, which should refer to longer and stable business presences.

By the time maps.me updates its data so the shops first are rendered, will probably be up to a month from now, after which will appear a flood of delete requests by maps.me users who are not able to find the temporary features.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/65523224 where the changeset comment is: turning carparks and buildings into residential areas as well as drawing random roads is vandalism of map data, therefore reverted to ensure integrity of the map for its many users.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/65520225 where the changeset comment is: delete Yet Another bogus maps.me viewpoint

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/65520078 where the changeset comment is: delete Yet Another bogus maps.me castle

hallo,
you added three names here, two of them being brighton drive.
but according to tiger 2018, the west one at v3 below is named ... something else, bainbridge place or something?
could you check this against your source in case you might have made an error and used the same name twice, or if it really does disagree with tiger?
thanks

in the first follow-up it seems you wish to lock everything to v1, and divert the perhaps hundreds of thousands of updates and corrections daily into mailing lists, fora, and changeset discussions, rendering them more totally useless than today.

i know that spammers and Pokemon falsifiers and vandals would love this as they simply need not participate in any forced discussion, just like today, except that today there is no requirement that a revert or fix be preceded by discussion and so osm is able to advance with improvements and corrections being applied today without a majority community approval.