This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/141279070 where the changeset comment is: Stop deleting my work, you big bully.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/141279051 where the changeset comment is: Learn how to map, luser

Hi, it appears this changeset has pulled a lot of building nodes way out of position.

I fear I have lost all my knowledge of the tools available to visualise this from three years ago, so I defer to an up-to-date expert to decide how best to revert the unwanted changes -- and maybe find out what happened here.

Grazie mille, il tuo pivo gratis

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/90958854 where the changeset comment is: maps.me castle for a personal home

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/90928649 where the changeset comment is: no alpine huts in a big city

isn't this just a redundant copy of the label node/6276755487 ?

these paths were correctly mapped as private by the firm which added them to osm as useful to their business model of to-the-door delivery, much like amazon is doing today with service drives.

osm is not a map but a database of objects that exist in the real world. just because something in on private property does not mean it is not of value to a business that has need to approach and measure the distance to the entrance, to say nothing of welcome visitors and emergency responders..

if you do not want to see them on the map, it is quite simple not to render something with access=private, as seen in the history of way/399835848/history for example.

Hallo Georg,

I see you have deleted this `bu=yes' tag, but if you look at other road segments in this changeset it seems what was intended is `bus=yes' as that is present in the other two I checked.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/84651397 where the changeset comment is: remove added personal info

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/83626240 where the changeset comment is: bogus maps.me campsite personal bookmark in a building

greetz,

in this changeset you tweaked way/651845815 , a winding footway overlaid atop several other roads.

i suspect there is not a footway down the centre of the street, but at best on one or both sides.

alternatively, each of the afflicted streets could be given the tag.

or this is pokemon mapping and should be purged, i dunno, i came here for another reason and got distracted by this.

thanks

see comment to note/2125898

ciao mcheck,

in this changeset you deleted way/316490717/history based on the contents of a note that i cannot be arsed to find, but there is definitely a path that i was able to walk, even if the previously mapped path is probably missing some switchbacks and now that all the trees are burnt, would benefit from a GPS survey.

I walked the bath with no GPS and no map, knowing it had been present in OSM, but while any markings and signposts may have been burnt, it is clear that it has been well used recently, also with fallen burnt trees arranged along either side as a guide.

I suspect the note and previous revision were based shortly after the fire, and that the way has since been cleared and often used.

I don't know if I should undelete this way and restore it even if not precise, or attempt to make a GPS trace, barefoot, uphill with a full backpack of beer, on the rocks.

if i write a script to show resolved notes in the area, i'll link that particular note in a later comment.

grazie...

hmmm, gnome suggests to me `garden gnome' which is a particular style of german kitsch found all over.

while originally i was put off by `dwarf', somehow today i was reminded of various sculptures i've seen, probably from the baroque, possibly rococo, era, of what today i'd describe as somewhat grotesque dwarves (from a period that cared less about political correctness). sadly i can't point to any particular location, perhaps in german or czech gardens, and my art history books where i might find them are far away from me. so without knowing details of this particular instance, i definitely agree `dwarf' would be a better description of the sculptures i'm visualising in me brane right about now.

i'll go away and shut up again, sorry.

hoi, amazon mapper,
did you really mean to mark the service drive you added way/752957509 with the tag ford=yes (valid over the entire length), when there is no stream or waterway mapped anywhere in the area?

yhanks

having just reviewed 28 of these, the nature of these nodes as potential spam means a good number of them will be candidates for purging entirely after an in-depth review of all details and not just the altered description.

as such, knowing i'd probably be strung up for deleting known and obvious spam, i'd not be using any tool but clicking on all 1'045 notes listed below - and this time not in `lynx' where i work faster without the overhead of a graphical browser, since if an alleged business is nowhere near the given address, or if it looks like a residential neighbourhood for what appears to be a service rather than a storefront, then i feel the node has no place in osm. particularly if it's an advert for an app as one of the links i posted in the attempted revert.

so in my case i care more about the changeset volume, and not at all the area.

a multiple of 20 items is good as each page below (or better on the revert mini-changeset) shows obviously the place-of-warship spammage, there on the first page.

i gave rough estimates as to the amount of useless spam and the amount of legit descriptions that i could review, but i've the suspicion those numbers are not representative.

as i seem to caught a case of the corona-insomnia, i'm tempted to page through the 500+ pages listing below. in the hopes i pass out or die before reaching the end to pronounce judgment.

i need a life. or a hobby.

two more place-of-warship spams.

node/5936260671
a fake shopping mall for something that has no place at all in osm -- an app. also abuses the note= field.

place-o-warship, place-o-warship.

next, this (osm) is a map, and conveys more precisely the thousand words this description is trying to replace it with, knowing i'm reviewing these in text-browser `lynx' so wow! i don't even need a map to learn there's a possibly-unmapped island nearby.

some self-promotions again following a template for what may well be not a storefront business but a service, or in the case of node/4782439654 i can't even figure out what it is and how it is relevant to a map.

same for node/4780373029 which description is making me wonder if being awake 24 hours has taken its toll on my thinking process or if i've always been this stupid to not figure out why i should be proud of dreaming with integrity, but give me third class professionalism please. sounds like a scam.

node/4240151639
description and note are being used as non-objective reviews and should be purged from osm, apart from the list. looks like newbie mapping to me.

seo spam without a useful key, abuses services tag as keywords. anything useful from the description is elsewhere (or should be), as osm is not a business directory, and i seriously doubt that 24 hours a day i could ring the bell at this address and unit and conduct business.

description adds nothing, used for promotion
another of the same
and another. any description using `we' is likely advert copy. we are not amused.

and to end up, another list of mission churches, again having to be continued in a non-standard description_1. is it abusive? no. is it relevant to osm? i can't say. where does one draw the line of Too Much Information?

well. my review, if this is representative, would have me nuking perhaps a quarter of them sight unseen. also sight seen. i didn't check the known spammers to see how many more were placed randomly far from their true addresses in the style of google maps europe a decade or so ago where nothing was within half a km of its proper location. but there are very few description values i'd leave intact, and in most cases there's no value to osm to rewrite them, just as with maps.me commentary added to notes and notes growing at twice the rate they are being resolved overall, i doubt any mapper will ever turn the maps.me user reviews and comments into useful map data...

yeah, a manual and visual check of everything of the original changeset could and in my opinion should cause a lot of them to disappear from the map entirely, and of what remains, most descriptions should be purged. i don't have an opinion if it was worth it to restore those non-abusive and topical descriptions, accepting the others with them. apart from the chance it gave me to review them.

forgot to paste the url for the second...

node/7244829302/history

the third one i'd let stay, it's not an advert as such.
node/7161569016/history
it's not a description, and i don't know if there's a suitable general-info= tag that would be better.

node/7026690612/history
i'd trim the description after the family-run sentence. the rest is not relevant to osm and is either self-promotion or obvious from the type of business, i'd like to see the hotel with unlimited rooms with a view.

five, truncated advert copy.
six, not advert copy, includes fee/free info not given elsewhere, otherwise repeats info from the healthcare:speciality field more or less.
six: non-objective self-promotion for a node with no clue as to what it is, another spammer trademark. and the most obvious spammer trademark is in the v1 edit, surprised georg didn't swat that one. anyone who fixes this entry would be doing the seo firm's paid work for them as an unpaid volunteer.

node/6315384504
place of warship spam, nuke on sight. it's properly placed, surprisingly, but that seo spammer has branched overseas too.

next another place-of-warship spam using advert copy in the changeset description as well. and this one is completely misplaced, nuke it with fire and set fire to the ashes. no, not the performing arts building.
node/6144566885/history

that reminds me how months ago after my computers got fried by lightning i wanted to post a diary entry detailing what percentage of osm notes are spammy or junk, but i think i've forgotten the details by now. ...

looks like Jan got a start as the first one i looked at was obviously non-objective advert copy - node/7261169196/history

the second one is obviously advert copy as it overflows the 255 character limit mid-sentence, which is the mark of an seo spammer. but it has not yet been reverted.

i may review the rest of them after a day of heavy manual labour to get me mind off me spasming muscles before i pull out ye ol' commandline tool, or i'll comment on anything noteworthy or summarise it, as my entire osm maptime these days is swatting spam notes in the US and pakistan and australia in particular...

it was deleted by you after being damaged by a faulty editor (MapRoulette? see changeset in node history) with the changeset description of
``demo' d''

What does that mean? a demonstration of what the editor can do? what were you trying to do? do you mean `demonstrated' or something completely different like `demolished'?

it is not up to the osm community to justify restoring a mangled-then-deleted node if the intent behind the edit is unclear.

FWIW, i did feed google with some wendy's in this area and came up with a completely different address to what this appears to be, so it may well be there is no wendy's here now, but that is unclear from the changeset description, and the typical use of MapRoulette is not as an editor, as far as i know, which i don't.