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103581943 over 4 years ago

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103581943 over 4 years ago

It is also worth noting that distances between stops is one of the more-important qualities for differentiating between light rail systems and streetcar systems in general.

103581943 over 4 years ago

Thank you for asking.

The tag `railway=tram_stop` can be correctly applied "where the halt resembles more a tram stop than a railway halt." I deemed this to be the case due to the following criteria:

- the lack of an enclosing structure
- the lack of a dedicated platform (aside from the sidewalk)
- the short distance between the stops

103787353 over 4 years ago

In any case, if you're going to vandalize maps, this link might interest you:

https://maps.google.com/localguides/

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103787353 over 4 years ago

Lmao

103869515 over 4 years ago

Perhaps, I just copied from the GTFS feed.I'm not sure if I'll continue to do that, however.

103736110 over 4 years ago

Do not apply `highway=busway` to these ways until *AFTER* support for it has been added to the Standard Tile Layer!

There are people who currently rely on the Standard Tile Layer to render busways, and applying `highway=busway` will cause them not to render.

Yes, I acknowledge that this would be considered tagging for the renderer, but I'm not about to tell the individual's whose workflow I broke by initially applying `highway=busway` that they need to wait for Carto to be updated before they can use their software again.

103108838 over 4 years ago

I apologize for the trouble I have caused you and your team.

103108838 over 4 years ago

Well, here's what's going on as of right now:

I am still pursuing trying to get `highway=busway` to, but the developers of the standard tile layer would rather not render it until it gains a level of large-scale adoption. Until then, busways tagged with `highway=busway` will remain invisible.

This puts me into a catch-22, where it is difficult to adopt a tag if the standard tile layer does not render it.

In other words, there is no set date for which `highway=busway` will render properly in Carto. Furthermore, there is no set date that `highway=busway` will work with the software that you are using.

Because of this and for the sake of practicality, I have decided to revert my own changesets.

103108838 over 4 years ago

I'm not sure what you are asking.

103498962 over 4 years ago

Note: initial comment is incorrect. *Low platform* stops were mapped as `railway=halt`.

103498693 over 4 years ago

Note: initial comment is incorrect. *Low platform* stops were mapped as `railway=halt`.

103584894 over 4 years ago

railway=halt

103581943 over 4 years ago

See here: railway=tram_stop

103108838 over 4 years ago

Here is the relevant issue:

https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/4226

103108838 over 4 years ago

Please do note that it would be incorrect to replace `highway=busway` with `highway=service` or another value to force them to render.

103108838 over 4 years ago

Hello.

The standard tile layer has not yet been updated to support the new tagging scheme, and instances of `highway=busway` will not render until it does.

The reason why it might have "vanished overnight" is that the cached map tiles in your browser were probably cleared and replaced with the updated tiles.

103021064 over 4 years ago

> Until rendering is possible, we should wait until changing it to highway=busway.

This suggestion goes against best practices; how something renders in Carto should not determine which tags are used.

For more information, please consult the following wiki page:

osm.wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer

103108838 over 4 years ago

If you would like, I'll revert the changesets.

103108838 over 4 years ago

I apologize.

Basically, a proposal I wrote got accepted, and I sort of jumped the gun on updating every tag everywhere before adequately notifying developers of the change. Here is the wiki page for the tag:

highway=busway

In hindsight, I should have at-least put this in the weeklyOSM.