Yes, but it's not "my" product. It's our product. There is no separation between producer and consumer.

FWIW I'm currently working on an easier way to get custom rendering without the effort of setting up Mapnik, but more of that anon.

Front page - take a look at osm.wiki/Front_Page#Some_examples and http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-March/034614.html .

Imperatives are easy ("Do this! Do that!"). But they don't get anything done.

Everyone here is a volunteer. If you want something changed, volunteer to do it. Don't just demand stuff. We have no shortage of good ideas, what we have is a shortage of people to do them.

(As it happens, personally I agree that OSM would benefit from an unobtrusive click-on-POI feature like Google's, but what I think is completely immaterial unless I'm prepared to code it or pay someone else to do so!)

Incidentally, the front page design has been discussed previously on the mailing lists, which are the principal channel of communication in OSM. You should search back on them; there are some mockups there which are (if you don't mind me saying) a lot better than yours.

Hm. It does sound like there's something about them that's causing Flash Player not to display them. If you could attach the tiles to a trac ticket that'd be cool.

Are they progressive JPEGs, perhaps? I _think_ Flash Player doesn't load progressive JPEGs.

Seems odd - it displays tiles from other sources (e.g. Walking Papers) ok using the same system, and I've never had a problem like that reported before. Given that you're using a Mac, can you open up Safari's Activity Viewer and see what URLs it's trying to access?

That's brilliant. I've long wanted to get the USGS topo maps back into Potlatch (they were there briefly as part of Christopher Schmidt's now-defunct OpenTopoMap project) - agreed that they're a wonderful resource.

You'll need to specify http://127.0.0.1/my/tile/server/!/!/!.png rather than localhost. If you use localhost, Flash Player's dumb security model thinks "uh-oh, external site accessing local resources" and baulks. If you use 127.0.0.1 it doesn't notice.

If you have the time (and with the connivance of the admins), it'd be wonderful to set this up on dev.openstreetmap.org as a service - either downloading and reprojecting/tiling WMS on the fly, which is what OpenTopoMap did, or perhaps just offering a service for people to request an area then tiling it.

I guess he's talking about this. Trivial damage, you can revert it yourself easily.

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Is exactly the wrong attitude.

I don't recall people regularly calling each other trolls on the OSM lists until you turned up.

Also, you're a spammer!

That looks better. Have to wean you off using "highway=road" though - in this sort of area it's almost certainly going to be highway=unclassified, and it's much more useful to have a 95% guess (which someone can come and correct in the 5% case) than such an unspecific tag!

Oh, referring to their maps is definitely out-of-bounds - no question about that. This is about aerial imagery. Agreed absolutely that a dialogue has to help.

P.S. Just a few short of 500 votes now!

I suspect it's the contracts, not the copyright - there doesn't seem to be anything preventing it in most copyright law; and contracts are just an understanding between two parties. If Google want it changed, it can be changed!

We're now at 227 votes and in first place - almost twice as many as the next most popular. Amazing result so far - let's keep it up.

No, it isn't ok.

Have messaged user accordingly.

Interesting issue.

It depends very much where you are. OSM already has good public footpath coverage in popular walking areas such as the Brecon Beacons and Snowdonia; and also in areas with dedicated contributors such as West Oxfordshire and the New Forest. These are very much up to the standard required by a hiker. Indeed, they can often be better - many OSMers map stiles and gates, for example, which are not typically shown on OS maps.

OSM will not, however, ever replace the 'Definitive Map' - by its very nature it can't. Is this a failing? Not necessarily. If the real, live footpath is somewhere else than where the Right of Way says it should be, then either the landowner is at fault (and should fix it) or the RoW should be diverted (and the council should fix it). It doesn't affect the validity of the map as long as you've mapped what really is on the ground.

I think you also underestimate what can be gleaned from extrapolation. Those of us who map cycle routes are accustomed to figuring out where the route goes despite the scantiest (or most inconsistent) signage. It's one of the reasons why OSM's cycle map is so good - it's made by cyclists who have a real interest in the routes, not highway engineers who understand little and care less.

There will always be very rarely used RoWs where the signs are unclear, there's no evidence of a path on the ground, and so OSM can't map it. Fair enough. We more than make up for that with our other strengths.

(Personal opinion: I actually don't have much of a problem with "inviting people to trespass". England & Wales law is ridiculously biased in favour of the landowner, who has very few responsibilities to balance up the benefits he derives from a natural resource. I remember the time years ago that a "git orff moi larnd" farmer shouted at me for following a derelict canal across his entirely uncultivated, neglected land - "how would you like it if I walked across your garden?". Sorry mate, but if there was a derelict canal across my garden, I'd have got volunteers in to restore it so that the public could benefit from it.)

They're not meant to be so thick, that's a bug that was introduced the other day and which'll be fixed again in a day or two.

Please do use trac.openstreetmap.org for reporting bugs in the editor, if you can!

That's excellent. I passed the Oxfordshire Way over by Otmoor the other day - was wondering where it went from there...

Presumably you can find peaks from SRTM (where there aren't voids), no?

You could just turn on the Cycle Map as a background layer in Potlatch and find the contours there.

Using Potlatch (which I would recommend :p ), when you're drawing a line, just mouse-over the road/cyclepath you want to connect to. The nodes on it will light up blue.

Then click, and a new point will be added with a black box [_] around it. This shows it's a junction.

As ever, when you want to finish drawing, either double-click or press Enter.

Wikipedia locations are typically from copyrighted sources (see mailing lists passim).