You might be interested to know that there is precedent for this in the UK. We tag the Broads as a national_park even though strictly speaking it isn’t quite one. (National Parks in the UK have to abide by the Sandford Principle - “where irreconcilable conflicts exist between conservation and public enjoyment, then conservation interest should take priority” - whereas on the Broads, navigation has equal priority.) But it quacks like a duck, and after I enjoyed cycling through the Catskills a few years ago I can see why you’ve taken the same decision.

Basically I need to finish the (mostly working) port to AIR, which will enable Potlatch to become a desktop application for Mac and Windows - potentially Linux too but that depends on whether I can keep compatibility with the ancient version of AIR that Adobe released before they EOLed it. AIR has recently been hived off to a company called Harman (a subsidiary of Samsung) and it’s not quite clear what’s happening there, but I think it’s probably got a few more years in it.

At present P2 doesn’t have release numbers because I can’t remember how the system works (I think Andy set it up and it’s connected with git tags or something). If I have the time to figure it out then I’ll give it a release number but for now it doesn’t have one.

Justice has no place at their table, and thus neither do I

Bye then.

Yep:

• Find a way/node with that selection of tags (create a dummy one if you need to!)
• Press Shift and that function key
• From then on, you can press that function key to recall the tags

Pretty much all of my TIGER fixup is done this way - so F1 is ‘layer=1, bridge=yes’, F3 is ‘highway=unclassified, surface=gravel’, and so on.

Sorry - Google Translate probably isn’t a usable source for OSM. The algorithms they use for translation are copyright Google and it’s very likely that some Google-tainted data finds its way into the results. If you really want to use it I’d suggest asking the Licensing Working Group for an opinion.

It’s not so much that there are no standards, more that OSM is incremental. If you just want to add a point, that’s fine; if you’ve got the time to draw in the full dimensions of the slipway and car park, even better. But it’s better to have the basic data than none at all.

That’s absolutely standard practice across OSM - the same is true for shops and churches, for example - and if you have the inclination, replacing simple points with areas is always welcome.

I’ve done a few slipways as I’ve been scrolling around US rivers so it’s great to see more work happening on this!

actual laugh-out-loud at that, thank you :)

I think what would really make the OSM diaries better is lots of people posting 989x2094px images to make a marginal rhetorical point

The bogus entries come in overnight (UK time) and get deleted in the morning UK time, so if you can set the refresh rate on your RSS reader accordingly, you should miss out on the spam wave.

AIUI Frobisher isn’t open source. (As the name would suggest, it’s very similar to the renowed Frutiger, which also isn’t open source.) However, Open Sans is pretty close in appearance to Frutiger and would probably be my first choice for an alternative.

Please stop posting the same thing repeatedly.

You’re not going to recruit people to your cause by posting the same thing to different people’s diaries repeatedly :(

LACDH, I think people are having trouble understanding what you’re saying here. Could you give a concrete example? (e.g. “I added Frog Street in Toadville and now it’s been deleted”) What do you mean by “merged” and “cleaned up”?

This personal style of attack is really not going to help to resolve any issues. Please stop it.

It’s not meant to be dismissive and certainly not ad hominem; more a jokey reference to how bad OSMF board meetings used to be during my time on the board years ago - and seriously, they were. (And as a member of the board at the time clearly I take partial responsibility for that!) In retrospect I should probably have commented “oh, you sweet summer child” which would have been more obviously tongue-in-cheek, but one always ends up having to explain jokes on the internet…

https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=64526

The most surreal and memorable OSMF board meeting yet

Ah, these youngsters.

Nah, it’s great. Any halfway competent cartography will only choose a subset of features to show anyway. The joy of OSM is that you can record everything and then a million different maps can be made by choosing which features to depict.

This is terrific - really beginning to cut through the generalities of the debate to some really worthwhile specifics. I think my two takeaways from skimming the presentation and paper are:

• think about why people want to contribute (your point about “women motivated by intrinsic (humanitarian) reward”). Intrinsic reward has always been a massive motivator for OSM, but portraying ourselves as “worthwhile” has historically only broken through to certain demographics - such as the traditional open-source crowd which is mostly male
• the really stark age difference: this perhaps masks a little-remarked strength of OSM that, in contrast to most open projects, we’ve long been good at attracting older (male hobbyist) contributors as well as younger (male) programmer types.