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63399622 almost 3 years ago

The time I'd usually walk pass there would be late in the night, so I have never gotten inside (it's way outside their opening time), and I don't usually have business to; I merely documented what I could see from the outside back then.

And no, I will not go there during their opening time just to find out about this, not anymore: I no longer participate in OSM since 2019, after corporate armchair mappers overran what I surveyed (as now stated in my OSM profile page).

So, I have no answer for your question; sorry.

44864866 over 6 years ago

There's no 7-Eleven near Thewet Pharmacy, the nearest one is either across the canal <way/548875640>, or at the next driveway <node/2620924882>.

This edit is now partially reverted in changeset/72420366 <changeset/72420366>.

72085011 over 6 years ago

การแก้ไขนี้ ทำถนนอรุณอมรินทร์ขาดแหว่งไปท่อนหนึ่งนะครับ

ผมได้ย้อนส่วนที่ผิดพลาดตรงนี้กลับให้แล้ว ในชุดการเปลี่ยนแปลง 72086445 <changeset/72086445>

เวลาแก้แผนที่ ก็ระวังหน่อยแล้วกันนะครับ, ถ้าเผลอไปกดเปลี่ยนอะไรแบบไม่ได้ตั้งใจ ให้ใช้ปุ่ม Undo ย้อนกลับนะครับ ก่อนที่จะไปแก้อะไรอย่างอื่นต่อ

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This edit accidentally removed a part of Arun Amarin road from the map.

I have reverted this mistake for you in changeset/72086445 <changeset/72086445>.

Be careful; if you accidentally changed the part you didn't mean to, use Undo button before continuing to edit other parts.

63451451 over 6 years ago

- This edit created a duplicate China Town Gate POI instead of adding to the existing one <way/342812020>.
- This edit mis-tagged a neighborhood as a department store.

This edit is now completely reverted in changeset/72085641 changeset/72085641>.

71922487 over 6 years ago

อย่างแรกที่ผมคงต้องย้ำสักนิดคือ การปักหมุดเปล่าๆ โดยมีแค่ชื่อบริษัทแค่อย่างเดียว ไม่เพียงพอที่จะทำให้บริษัทปรากฎบนแผนที่ หรือค้นหาเจอได้แต่อย่างใดนะครับ

การจะให้ปรากฎเป็นหมุดสีน้ำเงินได้ และค้นหาเจอ อย่างน้อยคุณจะต้องเลือกชนิดหมุดเป็น "บริษัท" ด้วย <office=company>

และถ้าจะให้ดี ก็ควรจะเจาะจงลงไปด้วยว่าเป็นบริษัทที่ทำกิจการเกี่ยวกับอะไร (ออกแบบ, ก่อสร้าง, ติดตั้งไฟฟ้า, ฯลฯ) รวมทั้งข้อมูลติดต่ออื่นๆ เช่น:

- เบอร์โทรศัพท์ <phone=*>
- เบอร์โทรสาร (ถ้ามี) <fax=*>
- เว็บไซต์ (ถ้ามี) <website=*>
- อีเมล (ถ้าต้องการ) <email=*>
- บ้านเลขที่, ซอย/ถนน, แขวง, เขต <addr=*>

เพื่อเป็นข้อมูลแก่ลูกค้าที่สนใจจะใช้บริการ ให้ติดต่อบริษัทของคุณได้สะดวกที่สุดในทุกช่องทางนะครับ

ยินดีต้อนรับสู่ OpenStreetMap ครับ

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First, I would like to emphasise that making a bare node with just a company name on it, is not sufficient to make your company appear on the map or search result.

In order to make it searchable, and show up as a blue POI; you must at least mark your node as a "company" <office=company>.

For a better outcome, you should also specify which field that your company trades in (designing, construction, electrical installation, etc.), and also add contact information:

- Phone number <phone=*>
- Fax number (if it has one) <fax=*>
- Website (if it has one) <website=*>
- E-mail (if you'd like) <email=*>
- House number, driveway/road, subdistrict, district <addr=*>

These are for your potential clients to be able to contact you conveniently, in any channel they'd prefer.

Lastly, welcome to OpenStreetMap.

72044154 over 6 years ago

Note that this partially reverts changeset/67085538 <changeset/67085538>.

67085538 over 6 years ago

In Vajira area, Dusit district:

"Seven eleven" node/6270592388 <node/6270592388> is a duplicate of "7-Eleven" node/6239145090 <node/6239145090>.

^ This part of the edit is now reverted in changeset/72044154 <changeset/72044154>.

Bus stop node/6270592389 <node/6270592389> is a duplicate of node/6239144880 <node/6239144880>.

^ This POI is now merged into existing one via changeset/72044410 <changeset/72044410>.

63184104 over 6 years ago

#WhatInGrabsNameIsThis?

This whole edit is becoming an epitome of how armchair mapping could go wrong...

What about this "residential road" connecting between Captain Bush lane and Charoen Krung road?

The so-called "residential road" you mapped:
<https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/Va30Nh.png>

ESRI overlay:
<https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/o9UGht.png>

Bing overlay:
<https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/9nspx3.png>

DigitalGlobe Standard overlay:
<https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/pTNXGR.png>

I have taken trouble to actually check these on the ground and...

- Its east entrance cannot be found.
- Its south entrance is gated, short, and ended at a restaurant.

You are misled by imagery, duped by the shadows. Without actual survey to back things up, your methodology is invalid.

This edit is now reverted further in changeset/71893823 <changeset/71893823>.

For other reviewers; the correct parts are added with ground survey via:

- changeset/71954288 <changeset/71954288>
- changeset/71954406 <changeset/71954406>

This is what it really is, as far as ground-based observation can gather:
<https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/NGprHH.png>

66596470 over 6 years ago

Only valid justification for dividing road like this is for tagging them differently, or for adding them to different relations. Otherwise, you are just messing with object's history, and taking other people's credits.

Please read <osm.wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element>.

This changeset is now reverted on the Si Phraya road part, via changeset/71889180 <changeset/71889180>; which I have verified personally that there's no lane configuration change for the entire range.

#GrabWTF

63184104 over 6 years ago

#WhatInGrabsNameIsThis?

A crooked "service driveway" branching from Captain Bush lane... that goes through a *fence*? And into where exactly?

What you mapped:
<https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/NglgXr.png>

ESRI overlay:
<https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/mI74bQ.png>

Bing overlay:
<https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/HLi576.png>

DigitalGlobe Standard overlay:
<https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/3sfo55.png>

Apart from not surveying the damn thing; out of all imagery, you chose the one most outdated on as possible. And forget cross-checking 'cause that's obviously too much to ask from a *paid* corporate armchair mapper...

This rubbish is now reverted, again, in changeset #71822438 <changeset/71822438>.

For other reviewers, this is what it actually is:
<https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/XTR2as.png>

63184104 over 6 years ago

#WhatInGrabsNameIsThis?

House Number 1 doesn't have any driveway curving around on its north side. I wonder how did you came up with this rubbish anyway...

What you mapped:
<https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/CNZy83.png>

ESRI overlay:
<https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/JtWEuN.png>

Bing overlay:
<https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/udQIRB.png>

DigitalGlobe Standard overlay:
<https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/VA9350.png>

So, you just marked anything you saw on Digial Globe Standard as narrow and "gray" as *residential* street, without even bother to cross-check against ESRI, or even Bing?

That's really crude even for an armchair mapper; and your company said you were going to "improve" OSM?

How hypocritical.

This part of the changeset is now reverted in changeset/71822150 <changeset/71822150>.

For other reviewers, this is what it actually is:
<https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/0x3xDS.png>

59924394 over 6 years ago

The rest of this edit has been reverted in changeset/71813577 <changeset/71813577>.

I have personally verified that there is no bus stop anywhere near the north side of Surawong junction; at least until one walked northward beyond the General Post Office <node/6276433488>.

63183066 over 6 years ago

#WhatInGrabsNameIsThis?

The geometry of way/630447115 <way/630447115> (a.k.a. Charoen Krung 41 drive) as you mapped here is wrong, very misleading, and legally dangerous.

This driveway does not link roads together, it is a cul-de-sac connected to Charoen Krung road. To make it worse, it is a *private* cul-de-sac that ended with a fence.

I have checked Bing and ESRI imagery, and they did not have any definite visibility for things under tollways; yet you went ahead and "assumed" the connection anyway. I have no words...

This is the geometry you mapped:
<https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/6gz5qJ.png>

This is what it really is:
<https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/ji304E.png>

During an in-person verification survey of this, landlord (who was supervising a construction work there) approached me and informed me that this driveway is actually on a private land; starting from the edge of the main Charoen Krung road- access is allowed only for those who are having business with establishments located there, not for general public. And I was asked to leave.

The driveway was likely not mapped by passerby for this reason. If you are going to map this kind of stuff, do it with a *real survey* where actual length of the road and proper access mode can be noted; not just lazily sitting in your office- overinterpreting imagery like there's no tomorrow.

Making edits like this from the air, apart from misleading people to be trapped in cul-de-sacs, it can land your (Grab's) and other unsuspecting OSM users into trespassing charges. This is a highly irresponsible act for a so-called GIS company.

The offending part is reverted in changeset #71596036 <changeset/71596036> and fixed in changeset #71727548 <changeset/71727548>.

61561856 over 6 years ago

Regarding "Coffee Place" on Chroen Krung 30 <node/5825050055>:

I could verify that this exists, but are you sure that this place _mainly_ sells coffee beans/power? <shop=coffee>

Because from a passing look, it looked more like a cafe to me- which sells coffee as drinks. <amenity=cafe>

63183066 over 6 years ago

This edit is disfiguring Charoen Krung 32 drive; partially reverted in changeset/70548617 <changeset/70548617>.

71162863 over 6 years ago

It's Grab's "contributors" again, isn't it?

Please explain how Paragon's customer entrance driveway is supposed to be "private"?

Else, I will have to revert your swath of edits; because the last time I went there (which is not far from the time you made this edit), it is not the case.

And DO actually explain WHAT and WHY did you change in your changeset comment, not just writing the ruddin' hashtag.
<osm.wiki/Good_changeset_comments>

Why corporate armchar mappers are all the same...

63184104 over 6 years ago

This edit is now partially reverted in changeset/70764812 <changeset/70764812> and 70764990 <changeset/70764990> 70764990 in the General Post Office parking lot.

Reasons:

You attempted to draw a driveway that crosses over a chain link barrier separating two parking areas.

And apart from this wrong entrance drivway, the correct entrance of the parking lot in question (at its N/E corner) is not marked.

This shows that you lot didn't even bother surveying the thing before messing with locals' works.

62658038 over 6 years ago

> - You disfigured the east entrance driveway of Suan Suanandha university.

Correction: You disfigured the *west* entrance driveway of Suan Suanandha university.

62931624 over 6 years ago

#WhatInGrabsNameIsThis?

A dangling node at the east of Government House is now reverted in changeset/69725154 <changeset/69725154>.

Obviously, "verifying changes before committing" is not what we can expect from this Grab/GlobalLogic team of vandals.

62932784 over 6 years ago

#WhatInGrabsNameIsThis?

At the north-east side of Mission Hospital:

- You falsely mapped sidewalk as a driveway.
- You squeezed this false "driveway" between the main road and hospital fence, despite the small distance between them.
- You half-heartedly lined half of this false "driveway" outside of the hospital fence, and another half inside.

Your team failed all sorts of common senses I expect from "real" mappers.

This edit is now reverted further in changeset/69724097 <changeset/69724097>.