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146749283 almost 2 years ago

>Have you polled that people use that name or do you have a problem with that name yourself?

-The designated appellation is not utilized or recognized by the residents and locals in the area. This assertion is made based on a thorough understanding of the local context and insights derived from firsthand knowledge.
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">The sign that was recently installed here is an official sign"

-May I request an image of the installation in question? Additionally, could you provide specific geographic coordinates to facilitate precise point location? Have you survey and saw it yourself? Concerning the term "official," clarification is sought regarding whether the municipality is responsible for this nomenclature. It is crucial to note that the PMU milita forces, being the entity behind the sign creation and installation, lack the legal mandate to officially designate street names or install signage.
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">and if it was not the official name, the municipality would have removed it.
>If a sign is installed on the street, it must be done with the permission of the municipality."

-Regrettably, the municipality does not engage in the removal of such signs, contributing to the proliferation of numerous unofficial and often inaccurately named signage erected by residents. This includes instances where individuals affix handcrafted signs with descriptive names, such as "Street of Abu Example" or "Street of Martyr Example," contrary to the legal requirement for residential streets to be designated solely by numbers. Despite these deviations, it seems the municipality remains indifferent to such occurrences, even in cases involving hand-written signs executed with brushs.
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">Why do you think Iraq is so chaotic that anyone can install whatever they want in the city?"

-I kindly request that you refrain from making assertions about my country without the depth of local understanding that I possess. I urge you to exercise respect and discretion in your comments.
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Ultimately, the act of affixing a personal sign to Airport Street, even if the municipality does not take measures to remove it, does not confer the legitimate authority to officially designate the street with my name on OSM. It is essential to exercise prudence and consider locations where one possesses local knowledge and a nuanced understanding of on-the-ground circumstances.

Regards.

139255358 almost 2 years ago

ChehrehBargi, Please read the comments again, and I advise you to pay more attention and debate in an area in which you have local knowledge, and leave the discussion in an area in which you have no local knowledge in, especially if it is in a foreign country to you. Regards.

139255358 almost 2 years ago

Again if something like a shop or a name of a subject can not be verified on the ground, it shall be removed. As simple as that. place=* nodes/relations are a different story as they are not a POI.
Regards.

139255358 almost 2 years ago

@ChehrehBargi, If a shop, office or street does have a Persian name in Persian script written to go alongside the Arabic name in Persian script, then that should be in the name:fa tag. If there really is no Persian name at the ground, then it shouldn't. Anything can not be verified on the ground shall be removed. Transliterations don't belong in OSM.
Regards.

146749283 almost 2 years ago

ChehrehBargi,
I request you to review the relevant documentation on the wiki, which explicitly states, "If an official name is more unwieldy or obscure than another name for the same feature and fewer people use it in practice, even if it is signposted, it is better to put the official name in official_name=* or alt_name=* than to treat it as the primary name."
Additionally, it is important to note that the name in question has not been officially endorsed or displayed by the the people or the municipality; rather, it was erected by the Popular Mobilization Forces as a political statement. In the OpenStreetMap community, we aim to avoid incorporating political and problematic actions.
It is imperative to highlight that the signage in question does not conform to the official regulations governing street signs in Iraq. As stipulated by the law, street signs within city limits are mandated to be white, aligning with the specifications outlined in the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic. Contrary to this requirement, the observed signage is colored blue, a designation typically reserved for motorways under legal protocols. Notably, this particular sign features an image of an individual, along with the emblem of the Popular Mobilization Forces, further compounding its deviation from the prescribed standards. Such non-compliance raises significant concerns about the accuracy and appropriateness of the information.
Regards.

146816925 almost 2 years ago

Hello Ahmad-0772,
Thank you for your edit and removing the duplicate nodes, but Please next time when you remove the duplicate, please check if some of them has valid data that will be entirely removed if you did not copy them to the node that you wanted to keep.
See this example, the one you removed had name:ar and name:en:
node/10980198505/history
And the one you kept is without those names:
node/9221331912/history
No worries, I will copy them to the current kept one, but just wanted to share this info.
Regards.

146749283 almost 2 years ago

Indeed, and unfortunately true. I really hope for the best.

146749283 almost 2 years ago

Thank you, in this changeset I restored ‘name’ tag to the one known and used. Regards.

142892577 almost 2 years ago

Please provide sources to your changeset, I'm still waiting for the photos you wanted to upload. Regards.

146618118 almost 2 years ago

Please upload the pictures to any picture hosting website and comment them here.
Pictures must shows that the street name is in Kurdish only or multi language but Kurdish is mainly on top.
Pictures must be taken recently not before 2017.
Regards.

146618118 almost 2 years ago

Please provide a source for your changeset. A picture that shows that the street language name are only or mainly in Kurdish not Arabic at top. Otherwise I will revert due to my knowledge that every street sign in Kirkuk is mainly at Arabic. Best regards.

142892577 almost 2 years ago

No, there is no language in US constitution.
And for Iraq, yes Kurdish is considered also an official with the Arabic language, but here in OSM we follow the street signs, and the main language at top the street signs in Kirkuk is Arabic. English Kurdish and turkmen are right after Arabic.

146581536 almost 2 years ago

But these parts are above the ground level, shouldn’t they have level 1 to distinguish their level from the one next to it at the ground level? Regards.

146546292 almost 2 years ago

Just noticed that its for the entrance and the exit not the middle part. Thank you for your edit, and sorry for the misunderstanding. Regards.

146546292 almost 2 years ago

Hello, why did you remove the layer tag from the tunnel? Regards.

146309543 almost 2 years ago

Hello Fatemeh_vlp , and welcome to OpenStreetMap!

In this changeset you added the mall's name to the landuse way/1167428581, while the name of the mall is already added on the mall building way/1167428601, therefore this changeset has been reverted by changeset/146492996.

I would also like to mention a few other thing, if you are a member from a foreign iranian editing team editing in Iraq, please read what I said to your colleague here, when she edited the same landuse:
changeset/146279827

Regards.

146389259 almost 2 years ago

I fixed it myself, as there were another mistake/error with this changeset that I had to revert too.

146389259 almost 2 years ago

Hi, there is no link here at node/11527214256 between the road and the residential road, please remove it and be careful next time. Regards.

146376509 almost 2 years ago

Thank you Lamassu

146279827 almost 2 years ago

Hello AylarSedaeiSnapp , and welcome to OpenStreetMap!

In this changeset you added the mall's name to the landuse way/1167428581, while the name of the mall is already added on the mall building way/1167428601, therefore this changeset has been reverted by changeset/146292272.
I would also like to mention a few other things;
1- I noticed that you have the word "Snapp" in your username, which indicates that you are part of the organized editing team "Snapp" osm.wiki/Fa:Snapp and I confirmed this by looking at this LinkedIn page https://www.linkedin.com/in/aylarsedaei which confirms that you work for that company. So please ensure to state that on your profile.
2- I noticed that many editors of your team used Google Maps data/imagery previously thousands of times in OSM, so please do not use such copyrighted data to edit in Iraq as we don't allow such edits here.
3- I noticed that members of your team had participated in political and nationalist discussions in the mailing list against Arab countries such as Iraq, the country you are editing here. I hope that these previous practices do not reflect the nature of your edits in Iraq.
4- If your team is planning to have an edit campaign in Iraq, please discuss this with the Iraqi community first at https://t.me/OSM_Iraq and document your plans beforehand in the OSM Wiki. We previously had a problem with another Iranian team who started a campaign edit in Iraq which led to many problems with our local Iraqi mappers which we hope we won't face with your team.

If you have any questions feel free to reach by.

Best Regards.