Nice. One day I will know enough portuguese to read it! (My lessons are going slowly) But it looks nice. Now we have a little brazilian flag on the Press coverage page!

That's a lovely story... but what does it have to do with OpenStreetMap?

Well Ed was also saying that the google salesman couldn't point him at any instrumentation show how far over the limits he was, but maybe they'll make this clearer at some point.

If they were charging based on how much it costs them to serve the maps, surely it would make most sense (purely from an engineering standpoint) to count up requests coming into those expensive services (tiles and geocoding).

But then again that makes for a charging scheme which doesn't match the way web designers think of 'page views', and google already has mechanisms to enforce access to their tiles only via their javascript (though I don't actualy know how that works. Some sort of token exchange?)

If one user pans and zooms around an awful lot, does that cost the same as somebody making a fleeting glimpse? All very mysterious. So you reckon big sites definitely have to switch away to OpenLayers or Leaflet to avoid the charges? bummer ....hurray for Mapstraction!

Yeah I was expecting that site to help me, but actually it only has pre-made maps of London, Dublin, Glasgow, Edinburgh and New York. Can a kindle download and display a PDF file? If so, how well does it cope with the output from Maposmatic? and wasn't there an option to do multi-page atlases with Maposmatic? I started playing around with this, but didn't get very far.

Saturday 17th? I think that make this an OpenStreetMap Christmas Party!

Well there's what you've seen out of the remappings on OWL. That's one thing, ...but then there's this negativity directed at OSM and the OSMF, with accusation seemingly being that these organisations are explicitly instructing people to "copying via remapping to get round licensing/CT issues". If you see that message somewhere, please help to fix it. There shouldn't be any inconsistency with the message that data should never copied from incompatible sources. Everyone can help with ensuring that the message is clear, and feel free to have a friendly discussion about what the message should be if you are unsure.

Remapping principles. "Remapping means 'replacing with new content from a source compatible with the CT's'. It does not mean simply copying the old content - that might infringe the original mapper's rights.".

A lot of data may disappear. Not really that much, and not really "disappear".

At this stage there is still an effort to win hearts and minds, and get people to log-in and tick the box, to help with this transition. You post a diary entry "OSM/OSMF has become a farce". Sorry you feel that way ...but really. You're just making yourself part of the problem.

Well you'll have to wait for the diary entry about that event, but I can disclose that in fact no mapping was done. Although we do need to do more buildings around the Monkey Puzzle.

Yeah! Edit more more more!

By the way, there's another style of map rendering available as a separate layer, called 'osmarender'. As it happens this shows sport=swimming and leisure=swimming_pool tags, with swimming icons. So you can see here a swimming icon showing up from the other node which was on there already. This layer doesn't re-render very quickly after changes are made to the data though. Not sure how long you have to wait. Maybe several days.

Welcome! Looks like a great edit to me, although I think someone actually added that swimming pool already. Is it called 'Uittamon uimahalli'. Someone's put a node a little further to the north: osm.org/browse/node/267181235 They have the name and another tag sport=swimming. In fact your leisure=swimming_pool tag is better/more important.

My recommendation actually would be to put all of these tags on the way (the outline of the building). If you copy all the tags onto there, including the name tag, then you could delete both of those nodes.

But anyway... Welcome to OpenStreetMap! Keep at it!

Hi Sam. It's cool that you have all this GPS data. Looks like it covers a massive area centred around Perth. I just picked a spot, downloaded the GPS points and quickly found some roads which needed adding. Pretty useful I'd say!

I didn't stay up to listen to the full match but my curiosity did get the better of me today. I should've stuck with it. Sounds like quite a game. A two-out, two-strike, two-RBI triple in the bottom of the ninth, a two-run homer in the 10th, and a solo walk-off home run to finish it!

So now there's one more game playing in about 10 hours time. Last night I was pondering whether to keep the contest open for "extra innings", but now I think the referee has already blown the final whistle (wait... does baseball have any whistling?). We know you're just annoyed the ToffeHof pipped you to 3rd place :-)

@LivingWithDragons Richard's not Canadian? I learn something new every day. Come to think of it, I'm not sure if fx99 is German.

@ToeBee Entire state of Kansas? Spectacular! It would be cool to do some other geo analysis on the baseball edits which took place. Which state has the most, or which metro area has the most, or even better... calculate the distance from each baseball diamond to the local MLB team's stadium. Which team won???

Interesting what you say about El Dorado. I've certainly found pockets where TIGER data is hopelessly off. This gives me the idea that we should do some sort of manual mapped out rapid assessment of different areas across the states, to identify areas not just of untouched TIGER data, but untouched and particularly bad TIGER data.

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"way to map features that are entirely gone"? Mostly the answer is "no". Depending on how intrusive this data is, you might get away with adding it, but it's not really encouraged. Some of the prevailing thoughts on the topic can be found on Question: Does OSM use any historic data? or want to? The question does come up a lot. It's the kind of thing which could be catered for quite well if somebody made a serious attempt at setting up a parallel database project re-using OSM technology, but it would be a lot of work to take on the thorny technical challenges around how a time dimension would appear in editors and on the map. Also there's a few social collaboration challenges which OpenStreetMap simplifies by only mapping things are verifiable (This includes the requirement that the things still exist. You can go there and look at them)

@LivingWithDragons - We wont have all the shops. I didn't get all the shops in my slice. I think I got all the shops on the groundfloor of one end of the curvy corridor, but there was a whole other floor above. There were quite a few vacant slots with "coming soon" signs, so we'll need people to go back anyway

Beautiful. Now we need an animated version :-) I guess you've seen 'party render' videos: osm.wiki/Party_render#Rendered_Mapping_Parties (different colours for different mappers) It would cool to see your light effect applied to that kind of video.

Ooh. Name clash. I sometimes mention Cleveland as an example of place with tonnes of TIGER fixup work still to do. But I didn't mean your Cleveland. I meant Cleveland, Tennessee

Awesome. I should blog from SOTM too, but not found the time just yet. It's hectic here!

One thing you might clarify here and in your lightning talk, in case it isn't blindingly obvious :-) ... You're not talking about nearby Atlanta Georgia!