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144921543 almost 2 years ago

Yes and no, as far as I read about this salar (salt flat) it is an endorheic basin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endorheic_basin) with a salt "crust covering" brine waters from the lake.

I read "natural=playa" proposal which doesn't seem good. On the other hand, "natural=dry_lake" seems to be unopposed, but I don't agree to create new "main" tags, but maybe a sub-tag.

Combination of tags:

natural=water
intermittent=yes (because water is not present all the time)
seasonal=wet_season (to describe which seasons are with water)
salt=yes
surface=salt
geological=salt_pan (for geological feature)

I was thinking of add "basin=*" tag, but apparently in OSM it refers to man-made features.

144921543 about 2 years ago

first (scientific) study: https://horizon.documentation.ird.fr/exl-doc/pleins_textes/pleins_textes_7/divers2/01303.pdf

144921543 about 2 years ago

... In a first (scientific) study in 1975, the white area drawn on the map was considered a seasonal basin or seasonal evaporating lake (a tentative label could be natural=water + water=basin), but it is also considered a deposit of mineral resources (potassium, salt, magnesium, lithium, boron). The drawn area is the one that is seasonally flooded by several rivers that flow into it and a part of the rainfall.

I have yet to review some books and studies and will be proposing labels to those who edited the other salt flats.

144921543 about 2 years ago

Hi,

I also think that "wetland" is not the most ideal, but I restored to this tag because I wanted to standardize "temporarily" with the other salt flats of the triangle (salar atacama and salar hombre muerto).

But, the drawn area isn't exactly a "desert", this definition I think is more precise: "Salt Pans: Naturally formed salt pans are expanses of flat land, found in deserts, where the surface is covered in salt and other minerals." https://saltassociation.co.uk/education/physical-geography/

As mentioned in this comment (osm.wiki/Talk:Tag:natural%3Ddesert#Widely_Misused), these natural elements should have their own tag, but as each case has different characteristics it will be difficult to standardize.

Locally in Bolivia, it isn't considered a desert, even though there are several deserts in the area. I think the area drawn has multiple tags describing parts of what it is. The tag "geological=salt_plan" could satisfy the geological description, as "tourism=attraction" satisfies the photogenic feature of the place...

144988332 about 2 years ago

Hi, Bing/ESRI satellite images have an offset, you have to adjust the offset before editing.

I reverted this changeset.

144893972 about 2 years ago

Hola,

Eso imaginaba, pero también creo que definen como población en genérico y no el tipo (pueblo/villa/asentamiento/barrio/ciudad). No revisé las publicaciones recientes, ahora tienen categorizado?

Sobre los nombres, en parte tienes razón de preservar, pero quizá para llevar una correlación con el INE lo mejor sea registrar un código (tipo ref:ine=*), en el nuevo censo ya tienen listados de las poblaciones de los municipios. Iré restituyendo los que cambié. Yo pienso, que en name=* debería estar como los municipios los nombran, (buena fuente son los PDM's porque los redactan ellos).

Escribiré a la lista explicando estas cosas y planteando el posible problema, hasta mientras este cambio queda en suspenso...

144142953 about 2 years ago

hola, cuál es la razón de quitar la ciclovía? ya no existe (la retiraron)?

143877756 about 2 years ago

hola, es un error el "corregir" el teleférico, porque las imágenes satelitales tienen desplazamiento.

revertí el cambio.

143269468 about 2 years ago

Hola, esta calle tiene sentido hacia el este, se puede comprobar con las imágenes mapillary, pero también pasé por ahí y ése es el sentido.

143100476 about 2 years ago

Ahora pensando un poco, el cambio que hiciste no está del todo mal, y representa que a los lados hay cordones de acera elevados, pero me parece muy muy genérico, qué sucede si al lado derecho es elevado y a la izquierda es para sillas de ruedas? igual aunque genérico mejor detalles en el mapa es mejor.

143100476 about 2 years ago

Hola Jaime, gracias por editar y que bien que hayas usado la app Street Complete para detallar el mapa, siempre hay algo nuevo.

por ahora en Cochabamba es una de las pocas ciudades en Bolivia (quizá la única) que tenemos detalles de cruces peatonales, pero en muchos lugares solo para advertir a los autos/motos/bicis y peatones que "existe" un paso de zebra.

En muchos lugares cerca a parques/plazas y jardineras de avenidas tenemos mapeados pasos peatonales que conectan a las aceras y ahí a los costados hay los "cordones de acera" (eso sí son los que pensabas).

Con las nuevas imágenes satelitales en las que se pueden ver claramente los pasos peatonales, estoy aumentando los detalles.... 😉

aquí hay un ejemplo cerca que esta muy bien mapeado y sirve para aprender:

* cruce peatonal (intersección zebra y calle)
node/2296982096

* el camino peatonal de zebra
way/220317533

* el cordón de acera (kerb levantado)
node/2294518704

Cualquier duda me escribes 😉😉

143100476 about 2 years ago

Hola, kerb=raised significa que son pasos peatonales elevados y que el auto sube encima... eso casi no existe en Cochabamba a excepción de 4 o 5 en lugares específicos...

143186775 about 2 years ago

Hola, Qué raro que editaste el boundary de los municipios en este cambio... estaba seguro que Rapid ID oculta los boundaries para evitar ediciones involuntarias. 🤔🤔🤔

Revisaré si hay error para reportar...

143028082 about 2 years ago

Hi, route relation F6 is wrong, perhaps because of some edits made without knowing the Bolivian reality.

Maybe in other countries all the routes have continuity, but in Bolivia there are several routes that have jumps because the design of the route is not done by planning, instead every time a section of road is built it is added to the route.

My mistake, route F6 is continuous, route F9 is the one with a jump between Ipati - Boyoube.

Some examples: F4 (relation/167835 jump between Patacamay - Caracollo), F9 (have two jumps between La Guardia - Pailón & Ipati - Boyoube, recently edited by adding that jump to route), F10 (jump between Los Troncos - San Ramón), F24 (jump between Moxos - San Antonio)...

See the latest official map: http://www.abc.gob.bo/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/mapa_abc_2019_web.pdf

143085148 about 2 years ago

Hi, Under that reasoning... why public car parking is excluded & private car parkings are included within the area? 🤔🤔🤔

143085148 about 2 years ago

Hello, the airport area includes part of the airport access road, as it was before.

143077566 about 2 years ago

Hello, the airport area includes part of the airport access road, as it was before.

Maybe you are confused, because someone mapped the access as a tertiary road and it is actually a service road.

143042914 about 2 years ago

Hola, gracias por corregir la cantidad de pisos del edificio, solo un comentario, en el número de pisos se debe contar la planta baja.

No tengo idea porque aquí en Bolivia, separan del conteo de pisos la planta baja... 🤔

143028082 about 2 years ago

... and jump from Boyoube (Benemerito) to Paraguay. Same as Route F4.

143028082 about 2 years ago

Hi, officially this route is F9. F6 only goes as far as Ipati.