Talk:Tag:bicycle=no

Example 3 (bicycle=no or bicycle=dismount)

Which tag should be used for example 3 (bicycle=no or bicycle=dismount)? It seems the sign shows bike dismount "cyclistes pied à terre" information. --MalgiK (talk) 23:37, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

As described on bicycle=no and bicycle=dismount the second tag is a failed tagging scheme (introduced later, attempted to redefine bicycle=no and failed, people introducing it failed to handle existing tagging). As result bicycle=no and bicycle=dismount are synonyms, with second being lower use and confusing. Therefore bicycle=no should be used Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:33, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

physical on a node?

On the barrier=cycle_barrier page it says to use this to indicate you have to lift the bike over the barrier. While it would be useful to be able to tag this, can we use bicycle=no to refer to the physical properties of the barrier not the legal restriction? TrekClimbing (talk) 22:51, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Technically it is a legal restriction :) You cannot drive through, as it would require destroying cycle barrier. And that is almost certainly illegal. Though in general no is also used in places where passage is impossible also due to physical obstructions Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:52, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Though distinction presented there between bicycle=no and bicycle=dismount is very unlikely to be being actually applied, mismatches meaning of this values, and likely repeats myth/attempt of bicycle=dismount and bicycle=no as having distinct meanings Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:54, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Mateusz. I think if it was a legal restriction my daughter could be stopped or fined for riding through, but her bike fits just fine :) If I could wheelie I could probably do it too! Anyway, more generally the access page and specific access pages tend to makes it clear the emphasis is on the legal position, not de facto or physical and I think it would be helpful to mention these exceptions. Also, it's said in a bit of an opaque way on the barriers page, not making it clear that it's okay to tag what can/can't physically pass.