Talk:Key:retreat
We have a similar program in the States called "Safe House". Perhaps that would be a more helpful tag than "Notinsel"> -- Gridlock Joe 16:52, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
- You are right. Lulu-Ann wrote, that the projects could be added with the tag
support=notinsel. I think, this is more usefull for all projects. --ChrissW-R1 08:08, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Maybe you should mention what Notinsel means (litt. "emergency island"), otherwise people might think it's a place for people who dislike Christmas decorations (no tinsel) ;-) Mtcv 17:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- That is actually exactly what I thought when I read the "no tinsel" tag just now :-) -- Harry Wood 15:56, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Have a look at the social_facility-proposal. Maybe we could share our ideas? Thanks - Kerosin 11:13, 15 September 2010 (BST)
- Meanwhile it is a key ( Key:social_facility ) and I support the idea to use it. My proposal for the program in Germany (other countries have different operator):
amenity=social_facility,social_facility=outreach,social_facility:for=child,operator=Stiftung Hänsel + Gretel (Projekt Nothilfe)5erBande 7:38, 31 March 2012 (UTC) - The problem with this key is, that the Notinsel buildings are simple shops or banks. The best way to avoid conflicts with other keys is the following idea. --ChrissW-R1 21:47, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
I think that the tag is not chosen ideally but as it is a proper name of this facility I would not translate it. What about something like support:notinsel=yes/no? This would allow for tagging infinite similar items on the same object. --Dieterdreist 16:58, 1 September 2011 (BST)
- I think, this is the best idea, and now I will start to use it. --ChrissW-R1 21:47, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
- I created a new Key:retreat for more i18n. --ChrissW-R1 (talk) 10:21, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Overview on different programs
| Organization | Slogan / Motto | Country & Continent | Typical Participating Places | Training Level Required | Legal Requirement (e.g. criminal check) | Target Groups | Other Specific | Website |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Notinsel | „Wo wir sind, bist Du sicher.“ | Germany, Europe | Shops, bakeries, pharmacies, banks etc. | Basic instruction / self‑commitment; staff receive instructions on emergency procedures | Formal criminal check only in certain cases ; partners sign self‑commitment | Primarily children | Initiative of Hansel & Gretel foundation; ~16,600 sites in 250 municipalities | https://www.notinsel.de/ |
| Kelly‑Insel | „Kelly‑Insel – Ich helfe dir“ | Germany, Europe | Local businesses, public institutions | Staff orientation; optional certified self‑assertion training | Formal criminal check for partners; trainers follow police standards | Children, youth, schools; also women, adults | Includes "Ich sage HALT!" courses; ~3,000 sites | https://www.kelly-insel.de/ |
| National Safe Place | "Safe Place" | USA, North America | Libraries, fire stations, YMCAs, convenience stores, buses | Training from licensed local agency | Likely background checks via agency standards | At‑risk youth, runaways, homeless youth | ~20,000 sites | https://www.nationalsafeplace.org/ |
| Safety House Program (WA) | (no formal slogan; yellow sign) | Australia (Western Australia), Oceania | Participating homes and businesses | Home/business inspections; volunteers undergo police check | Formal criminal check ("blue card" equivalent), inspections | Children (school-aged; walking from/to school) | Still active in WA; began in 1979 | Wikipedia link |
| Noteingang – Mainz | (none stated) | Germany, Europe | Shops, restaurants, institutions with “Noteingang” sticker | Likely basic guidance for support in crises | No legal requirement stated | Children (school-aged; walking from/to school) | ~150 sitesb only in the City of Mainz and its suburbs | https://mainz.de/leben-und-arbeit/buerger-aktiv/kindersicherheitsprojekt-noteingang.php |
| Aktion Noteingang – Berlin | „Wir bieten Schutz vor rassistischen Übergriffen“ | Germany, Europe | Businesses, restaurants, public institutions | Briefing and written instructions | No formal requirement stated | Individuals vulnerable to racist violence | Grassroots initiative; multilingual stickers | https://www.aktion-noteingang-berlin.de/ |
| Demandez Angela (Ask Angela France) | (no official slogan; code phrase “Demandez/ Où est Angela”) | France, Europe | Commerce de proximité, bars, restaurants, hôtels, supermarchés, établissements publics | Staff receive briefing/training from local government or specialist organizations (e.g. CIDFF, Maison des Femmes) | Signing a charter; venues validate via local authority; staff training—not criminal‑check specified but usually vetted by municipality authorities | Persons feeling unsafe in public spaces (primarily women, but open to all including persons in vulnerable situations) | Launched nationally in 2020 by Minister Schiappa; expanding across many French cities (Quimper, Lyon, Nice, Montreuil ) | https://arretonslesviolences.gouv.fr/focus/plan-angela/ or municipal pages |
-- I added an overview on different (harrassment/criminal) prevention programs. This hopefully helps to find a common tagging approach. Metzor (talk) 09:57, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
"not the same as Key:social_facility"
What is the difference? Maybe mention it in the article? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 08:27, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Same as harassment_prevention ?
It seem very similar to Ask Angela primarily for women sexually harassed, but in practice for anybody in trouble.
Insel seem the same concept for children.
If yes, keys harassment_prevention=* and retreat=* could/should merge.