Talk:Key:memorial:conflict

Deprecation proposal

With subject=* existing and being in wide use (and even better: subject:wikidata=*, this might be a better fit. For example, 200 items have memorial:conflict=Holocaust which is not really a war/conflict. (I know, it was an important part of WWII, but it is _not_ a war in itself); some values have 'june deportation' which is not a conflict. (Furthermore, this also nicely sidesteps the semantic discussion of when something is a conflict and when this tag would be applicable.) Pietervdvn (talk) 21:48, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

memorial:conflict=* is both too vague and overspecific, but subject=* should be kept separate. I only think the format of this should be changed from underscored lowercase predefined entitied, to the same title case freeform text as subject=* .
—— Kovposch (talk) 12:41, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/deprecating-memorial-conflict-and-memorialwikidata/109837
—— Kovposch (talk) 17:26, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion to link to wikidata instead

Taginfo shows huge discrepancies in the way battles are named. The Second World War has 494 entries for "WW2", 189 for "ww2", 127 for "WWII", 2 for "World War 2", not to mention countless combinations.

Using memorial:conflict:wikidata=* would solve this problem and make it easier to retrieve the correct battles.

Bxl-forever (talk) 12:47, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Using memorial:conflict:wikidata=* is a good idea. I will apply this. --OSMRogerWilco (talk) 11:07, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Instead of using memorial:conflict:wikidata=*, I propose to just drop this key and use subject:wikidata=* instead. Pietervdvn (talk) 21:38, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

This can be used for the cause or background. subject=* may be used for a specific dead or event, and the entities depicted together alongside. It needs another solution. Proposal:Subject#Examples
—— Kovposch (talk) 10:08, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Multiple names for same conflict?

I am wondering if this page should discuss how to handle conflicts that might have multiple names. I assume the rule of thumb is "use the name that the memorial uses" but just want to confirm if that is the intention with the tag.

For example, WW2 may be called the Great Patriotic War in some post-soviet countries. And there are about 8 instances of `memorial:conflict=Great Patriotic War` according to Overpass, all located in Russia. (though to be fair, most eastern europeans refer to the war against Germany when they say great patriotic war in my experience. So usually not the war against Japan. That could be an argument that these are commemorating two different things.)

--Malle Yeno (talk) 20:29, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

We should use the same identifier, as documented here. What's on the memorial would likely go in "description". --Richlv (talk) 11:21, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

Fundamentally, the format here is bad in the first place. Uppercase shouldn't be mixed with underscores. If it's freeform text, it should uses whitespace, and *:wikidata=* used as the identifier. See above about subject=* and the proposal.
—— Kovposch (talk) 04:42, 8 August 2025 (UTC)