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Comment from zarl on 14 July 2015 at 11:51

Potlatch is sort of deprecated, see this comparison.

Comment from SK53 on 14 July 2015 at 13:00

@zarl: really that comparison is entirely subjective.

As someone with approaching 10,000 changesets who nearly always uses Potlatch, I suspect that the idea that it is ‘only for beginners’ is just not supported by the evidence (see for instance Editor Usage Stats page on the wiki). I certainly don’t find JOSM ‘more fluid’: I find it better for a limited set of tasks: extensive relation editing, large scale mapping of buildings, complex manipulation of tags associated with multiple elements, performing reverts etc. and keeping a copy of stuff when I dont have an internet connection and will do a series of small edits.

Obviously Potlatch’s lifetime is dependent on Flash support, but the fact that it is ‘not actively developed’ also reflects that it is pretty complete for most editing purposes. However, there have been at least two recent useful additions to the functionality of Potlatch (tasks, & bookmarks), and the first point release in several years, so I suspect that is also overstated. There is abundant evidence that part of ‘not actively developed’ is an overly hostile style of communication with the principal developers (and this is not restricted to Potlatch).

Lets get away from the idea that there needs to be a hierarchy of editors, whether it be in some measure of quality or experience of users. Different people have different approaches to how they map and add data to OSM: people will tend to gravitate to the editor which suits them and the kind of things they map. I for instance dislike the modal approach of JOSM, whereas a friend who uses CAD software in her day job ,of landscape design, likes it for the same reason.

Not only is there scope for all existing editors (there are still a few folk who prefer Merkaartor), but there are plenty of other editing models which are as yet unexplored (various mobile approaches obviously, but voice activated as suggested by RIchard @ sotm-us this year, and editors which instead of modelling OSM concepts, model real-world ones). However, we have a long-standing problem of relatively few people willing to put up with the flak of editor development.

Comment from Thomas8122 on 14 July 2015 at 14:30

‘not actively developed’

nope

Comment from Richard on 14 July 2015 at 17:29

I’d anticipate that Shumway (JS Flash interpreter) performance will become tolerable by the time that Flash Player finally disappears from desktop browsers. There’s also the option of distributing as a desktop app using Adobe AIR.

Comment from Minh Nguyen on 16 August 2015 at 05:27

Potlatch 2 is still unusable in Shumway due to missing text input support (GitHub issue, Bugzilla).

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