hi trav,

thanks for continuing the cleanup here, as well as your changeset comments re paths v. footways. and anything else you might have done i've not discovered yet.

jumping in here, do not forget the importance that a posted sign or entrance has for a non-native speaker seeking emergency services.

even if the sign for the police is as simple as Polizei or Gendarmerie, this may not be immediately obvious for a tourist whose maps.me presents the logo in a completely different script.

i have always tagged my quick surveys of chemists with name Lekarna as that is only what is on the sign, even if with the right language settings it's obvious - in countries where that was all that was obviously visible in a quick ride-by. i see the same with the cyrillic corresponding to Apteka, frequently mapped.

if nothing else, in an emergency where one is led to a closed entrance, how can one tell which of several possibilities is the correct one without something like a hint Lekarna Pivo (of which i've provided only the first half) is more likely than a dozen personal names that to an outsider are all gibberish?

so i am all in favour that any posted signage be a candidate for the name field, no matter how how apparently redundant natives find it - particularly for police and pharmacies/Apotheken (that usually have distinctive non-generic names in your country) or other vitally important services.

Probably omitting Kriegerdenkmal, but i've tagged plenty as such and it's a different discussion.

'tschuldigung...

nice changeset. i'm glad you were able to correct/augment the driveways i was unclear about, due to my chosen imagery at the time, as actual driveways and not business/gummint service drives in this area.

one thing i noticed where i had not corrected your mis-tagged additions, is that it appears esri/maxar aerials are most recent, where i saw a mis-mapped car park that matched bing, but not the newly laid tarmac of the others.

of course the decade-old esri clarity archive is also different, but best for drawing and aligning unchanged features in this area where mapbox fails to deliver the sharp images i expect to find.

good work.

given your recent change in username but most importantly, the changeset comments in the past hours you have made, i will cautiously welcome you to the club of productive and correct mappers.

of course, i will be reviewing these, but i hope to be able to offer constructive input to improve the map, rathr than getting involved in meaninggless edit wars.

then maybe like with so many others, i can lose my interest in stalking you personally, and return to stalking amazon logistics.

map well, and be well.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/73003141 where the changeset comment is: revert persistent pokemon vandalism. this time it's personal. dwg has been notified.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/73003129 where the changeset comment is: revert persistent pokemon vandalism. this time it's personal. dwg has been notified.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/73003100 where the changeset comment is: revert persistent pokemon vandalism. this time it's personal. dwg has been notified.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/73003064 where the changeset comment is: revert persistent pokemon vandalism. this time it's personal. dwg has been notified.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/73003034 where the changeset comment is: revert persistent pokemon vandalism. this time it's personal. dwg has been notified.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/73002968 where the changeset comment is: revert persistent pokemon vandalism. this time it's personal. dwg has been notified.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/73002905 where the changeset comment is: revert persistent pokemon vandalism. this time it's personal. dwg has been notified.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/72999658 where the changeset comment is: restore highway=footpath tagging

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/72999607 where the changeset comment is: restore carpark service drives turned into walking paths

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/72999363 where the changeset comment is: these are service drives. not paths. stop trying to turn everything on the map that was correctly tagged, into paths. osm is a serious project used for navigation and delivery, and false data like this makes that impossible and harms osm.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/72998987 where the changeset comment is: what is this rubbish? this is vandalism pure and simple and has no place in osm. https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=72856322

yeah, that looks good enough to be almost real that i'll let it pass. the esri aerials seem ideal in this area for tracing - oh, connecticut, of course - so i resisted the temptation to repeat my earlier mistakes adding copious details and striving for improvement.

thanks

while one node was included looping back over itself twice. now renders.

you have listed google maps as a source.

you may not copy any information from google maps for osm or source from google.

by the way, don't you invoke your editor with a middle-button click in a new tab? i'm into that habit because of how painfully slow reloading and redrawing any page is so by now i have something like a hundred tabs to sort through with enough works-in-progress that i almost hope for a crash or disconnect to give me a clean slate. then remember to enable the notes layer and login before setting off again.

in general i think i've cleaned most of the dupe nodes outside california, to get a better handle on their frequency. same with self-intersections that are starting to recur in ways i've not really been able to reproduce without effort in potlatch2, that seems to better safeguard against these things in a lightweight manner that would not surprise me if it were more efficient than the bulk of editing i see in many amazon changesets. or i could be jaded by the beginner-friendliness, animations, and pop-ups iD offers when i can't refresh my screen in under a third of a second at best earlier, now actually worse.

determining the source of the bugs is probably not something i can do the way i was 40 or more years ago with FORTRAN i've long forgotten. i'd probably cynically grep the source for rnd() or rand() or however the language in use i'd have to learn describes once-in-a-blue-edit functions. or maybe search the code for
/* now let's annoy those snivelling Potlatch potheads by dumping bogus data for them to fix */
but i'd abandon my criticism upon finding such an obvious and impossible smoking gun.

the best i can do is point out operator error so it doesn't flood the map at the rate amazon are contributing, and comment on the unusual cases like where six nodes get piled up in the hope someone who already has a grasp of the code, where to find it, and what the design intention is, will question that intention. i've too often seen little documented code divert in reality from the intended flow, and i'm no longer maintaining any k0dez i know intimately where reproducible bugs can be tracked by me. plus i can't even start iD now, not that i could reproduce these errors.

i suspect that amazon simply applies a few cosmetic patches (host is obvious) but doesn't do much to the innards, although i could see stripping out a bunch of unused functionality like brand name links and such. luckily they do not seem to be doing showstopper edits like other organised teams (über/lyft/grab/can't-remember) making mincemeat of relations on the west coast in ways like i've cleaned after you somewhere, but worse, as it was regularly damaging map data every handful of edits.

it's just a matter of getting the fix(es) into iD in the first place.

hi,
looks like in this edit you added way/703230884 , joining it at several locations to other features, and then moving it out of position, dragging the nearby paths and a pond out of shape.

could you look at this? thanks