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56463538 almost 8 years ago

Hallo,
Adding the english name --
name Skate Cafe
name:en Skate Cafe - Couchsurfing meetup
which is not the official business name, but merely your own notes about the place, is not the way to do things.

56318272 almost 8 years ago

I believe this scandinavian armchair mapper meant to write ``never'' instead of ``newer'', which is the false impression one could get from Bing z20 default, or ESRI here.
The DG Premium source listed is new enough both in the z19 satellite and the z20-up Mapbox aerial to show the roads completed and houses already constructed.
Not sure if JOSM accurately lists in the source above, all or the correct backgrounds consulted.
In any case, these are definitely not fantasy= as I first expected of an unjustly wronged Pokemon mapper seeking revenge, not an experienced mapper.

56396972 almost 8 years ago

That is only a partial revert, Prince.
Your work on way/38626565 in changeset #55360096 wherein you've unified all the retail businesses to adopt the same æsthetically-pleasing mapping style, has been undone with the addition of an unnecessary additional node now appearing out-of-place and off-centre.
It doesn't even offer any additional useful information such as being positioned at and tagged as the building entrance (lacking in this area), it simply draws attention to itself as an outlier, as not conforming to current accepted advanced mapping technique and risking falling victim again quickly to similar map-improvement.
(As an aside, it makes itself vulnerable to editor iD's Vanderlismus as befell the Othello Bar in Freiburg/Br., now resulting in its entire original history having been lost. But that's not my concern.)
The other buildings are the responsibility of other mappers including one hsimpson whose prominence as a community participant is immediately recognisable to me as an outsider, as is yours.
Just to clarify your response.

55791609 almost 8 years ago

Sorry, lost track of this.
Can I ask you to look at way/138230659#map=19/38.72969/-121.25652&layers=ND
which will show you the -- partial -- history of the building in this changeset you say was not there until you added it.
Unfortunately, as a visual history will show, in fact it was (at v1, not sure why I thought v2).
But what is causing me a great lack of sleep is how this does not display your changes here, even though the 0utline is that which you changed.
In order to see that you had in fact made a change, I have to examine each point making up the building.
Clicking on the first listed node, that you shifted to the north,
Node History: 1515113266
(no comment)
Edited 21 days ago by mikesullivan1990
Version #2 · Changeset #55791609
Location: 38.7300837, -121.2565490
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Roseville buildings
Edited about 6 years ago by Eureka gold
Version #1 · Changeset #9931425
Location: 38.7300493, -121.2565557
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Furthermore, where you had deleted some of the driveways, there remain now orphan nodes visible. I'll pick one of them:

node/998963022#map=19/38.72969/-121.25652&layers=ND
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So, while your Vespucci deleted the way between this node and the road, it left behind the node itself.
Generally I would consider that to be a bug, or wonder if I'm still asleep, or if lack of sleep has taken its toll on me.
So somehow the way you are using Vespucci is not quite .. well, not compatible with my beginner's view of how the data should be treated.
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Now, from the changeset summary, I see you deleted some 11 ways, perhaps all driveways, which were connected to one drive also mentioned.
Now, having determined this summary does not tell me what you did without first undergoing brain surgery/amputation, I feed it to a visual difference URL like so:
https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=55791609
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Here I can make sense of things:
On the building, you expanded its area by moving the five top nodes, and now that you have seen the better imagery backgrounds, you can see that this made things worse.
You also deleted 11 driveways. Six in their entirety, but somehow for five of them the end nodes were left intact. That I cannot explain, but I don't think it should happen. Especially not inconsistently.
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My feeling when viewing the visual difference of this changeset is that you deleted the driveways for whatever reason, and you made an unneeded change to the building, which I'm sure you will agree was not an improvement.
And somehow the orphan nodes were left behind and your changes were not transferred to the building outline proper.
My suggestion, if you agree to restore the building to a more right-angled shape and to return the driveways so those homeowners need no longer park on the street, is that this changeset be reverted in its entirety as a faulty mistake with bugs introduced by Vespucci.
I will look over your other changesets to see if similar weirdness beyond the relations manifests itself, but for this you won't lose any valuable work (unless you have a grudge against private driveways or right-angled buildings ;-)

55706254 almost 8 years ago

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/56407795 where the changeset comment is: c0mpletely revert SE0 Vanderlismus 0f well-mapped h0tel

56396972 almost 8 years ago

Y0u have deleted a separately-mapped building 0utline, 0nly t0 replace that area with a single p00rly-situated n0de, destr0ying 0ne particular mapper's detailed data.
In additi0n elsewhere y0u have ch0sen t0 g0 against the current accepted practise 0f efficiently and accurately representing businesses as areas, by deleting that inf0rmati0n and duplicating it in a redundant, additi0nal n0de, g0ing against the examples 0f all nearby businesses mapped as accurate areas.
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I feel this changeset sh0uld be reverted as it und0es the w0rk 0f 0ther mappers, degrades the quality 0f 0SM standards in 0rder t0 f0rce 0ne particular business m0del int0 the 0SM c0mmunity 0f mappers. Discussi0n 0f similar c0ntr0versal and disputed edits in Belgium and the Netherlands have sh0wn an unwillingness t0 adapt a particular business interest int0 c0mpatibility with the 0SM c0mmunity, but instead a desire t0 maintain t0tal c0ntr0l 0f the data and n0t all0w the 0SM c0mmunity the ability t0 impr0ve up0n it by adding n0n-c0mpany-appr0ved yet useful inf0. The Belgian changeset c0mmentary with a far larger c0mmunity participati0n has n0t even reached a l0gical c0nclusi0n and c0mmunity agreement.

56346940 almost 8 years ago

,,Bei OpenStreetMap erfassen wir nicht die Realität.``
;-)
Nur Vanderlismus du Lapen

54404373 almost 8 years ago

Sheds, p00ls, n0 pr0blem, as they are within a typical guerilla mapping that d0es n0t draw attenti0n t0 any0ne in particular, well visible in aerials.
These are n0t immutable guidelines.
There is an 0ng0ing discussi0n in talk@ mailing list with a link t0day, I believe the 0riginal was 10.Feb.
I neither want t0 understand n0r interpret this n0w, three days with0ut sleep thanks t0 dear Kimberly-l0ver last night. Even hearing *any* sp0ken w0rds, n0t just the J0hn Cage interview at present, makes me want t0 smash my equipment.
S0rry.
(p.s.: p0kem0n trash, it's the new buzzw0rd)

54639207 almost 8 years ago

That is cerrect, earlier I was able tew bang the key three, 4, five times and get a result, then it gave up the gh...spirit a few days back.
It will be a few days bef...until I can take hundreds 0f minutes and maybe dig up a werking thing, perhaps instead disassembling this 1 and determine if it can be repaired easily.
Else write awkwardly like here. :-/

144000 almost 8 years ago

Hi Teesta,
this was a massive data imp0rt 0ver ten yeats ag0, with kn0wn pr0blems.
S0 y0u need n0t c0mment 0n such changesets - just s0 y0u kn0w, in case y0u might c0mment again 0n an0ther many-year-0ld edit.

45377382 almost 8 years ago

It is just p00rly drawn, seeming t0 0verlap the r0ad sidewalk and tied t0 the walkway ar0und at several p0ints.
T00 bad n0 leaf-0ff imagery sh0ws it.

54404373 almost 8 years ago

Actually the privacy guidelines just recently p0sted (s0rry, n0 link at hand) are quite clear that in a situati0n like this, in additi0n t0 guidelines f0r verifiability (this is a private yard with high walls), that we d0 n0t map such things.
There are excepti0ns but they d0 n0t apply here.

54639207 almost 8 years ago

Actually, l00king again, I see Mapb0x, which just became available in the last days 0r weeks,is even newer and sh0ws m0re in pr0gress that I can trace.
My analysiis 0f vari0us areas in Mapb0x dates the imagery between 6 m0nths t0 well 0ver a year 0ut 0f date.
Sadly Fl0rida images lack the bright early autumn c0l0urs 0f m0re n0rthern climes, stitched with 0ver a metre gr0und mismatch t0 summer leaves, f0r better carb0n-dating.

54639207 almost 8 years ago

Hi,
these are traced fr0m ESRI C0mmunity where they are sh0wn in vari0us stages 0f c0nstructi0n.
As 0ther Fl0rida imagery I traced was n0t even this far al0ng, yet a cust0mer rep0rted a neighb0urh00d l0ng since c0mplete, I estimate the imagery t0 be at least a year 0ld and these t0 be c0mpleted.
0nly an 0n-gr0und l0cal can c0nfirm the state at present as c0mplete and 0pen, and thus finish mapping what is n0t yet visible in the dated aerials.

56323192 almost 8 years ago

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/56325360 where the changeset comment is: Revert simple Vanderlismus

56067239 almost 8 years ago

????
I am sure my ex-grillfiend had n0 pr0blem with paying and/0r receiving 1- and 2-Cent pieces a few weeks ag0 in y0ur chain, and I am pretty sure with a large en0ugh purchase I c0uld pay with the same 100er I br0ke a few days ag0. Else what is the p0int 0f pricing at 2,49 f0r Zitr0nensäure rather than 2,50, making it m0re w0rk t0 mentally calculate the sum ahead 0f time and have exact change ready?
Als0, here it seems the default is d0ggies are all0wed everywhere, restaurants, cafes, and where n0t it is clearly p0sted. Then, 0ne d0es n0t expect t0 spend tw0 h0urs sh0pping with a h0wling d0ggie tied 0utside, while that is valid at a cafe, and a g00d next challenge f0r CanineC0mplete, like payment meth0ds f0r CashC0mplete.
The sh0ps where n0 eating 0r drink is all0wed als0 have that p0sted pr0minently, it is als0 n0 pr0blem t0 put that in my rucksack, but it is a big pr0blem if all I have in my p0cket t0 pay is a d0zen hundred-Eur0en n0tes fresh ft0m the Banc0mat, 0r a th0usand Schwyzerfranken, and n0thing smaller, and desperately need s0mething.

55533258 almost 8 years ago

The revert was n0t with0ut issues. Several items had been m0dified by y0urself 0r 0ther users like 5359. I was n0t prepared t0 capture standard err0r f0r analysis, mea culpa.
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Earlier failures have disappeared fr0m my scr0llback buffer, s0rry
S0 there still may be issues but n0t s0 many, because I did n0t pr0mptly act. I await my punishment.

55533231 almost 8 years ago

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/56286595 where the changeset comment is: User-requested revert of failed partial upload, fully carried out in 55533258, Kein Pokemon Vanderlismus du Lapen, 422 nodes of 430 FAIL

56135289 almost 8 years ago

Why not have both?

56135289 almost 8 years ago

Hallo,
Why did you remove all the detailed mapping to separate the grass-covered areas from non-grass, and which seems to quite well reflect the (very old) aerial imageries that are available?