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59386311 over 7 years ago

Thanks for responding quickly. I can recommend OSMand for POIs. More complex edits will require you to make notes in the field and work them out with iD or JOSM (if you have a laptop with mobile internet it also works in the field, but a desk set up works more comfortably IMHO :-D).
Cheers,
dikkeknodel

59386311 over 7 years ago

I've made the necessary corrections:
changeset/59629638

59384623 over 7 years ago

Hi OpenBoys,

I can hardly believe that SportXX is a cinema as it's tagged here, since it's a chain of Sports shops. Now this node has two names, name=Maxx and name:de=Migros SportXX.

If both the cinema Maxx and the shop SportXX are here, than that requires two different nodes.

Could you please double check?

Keep up the happy mapping!

Cheers,
dikkeknodel

Could you double check this?

59386311 over 7 years ago

Hi milchbuab,
I notice you changed the name:en/de/fr to 'moment' but left the name tag as 'Les Terroirs'. Should that tag also be changed? And out of pure curiousity, what is the relevance of having tags in multiple languages if the name in all of those is the same wouldn't the name=moment tag be sufficient?
Keep up the happy mapping!
Cheers,
dikkeknodel

59508333 over 7 years ago

Hi Lutzllutz1,

I noticed you added a few water_wells at pickick places. Are these drinking water points/fountains like you see all over Switzerland from flee flowing ? In that case it is likely that it should be mapped as amenity=drinking_water, instead of man_made=water_well.
Have a look at the wiki pages to see the difference.
amenity=drinking_water
osm.wiki/Tag:man made=water well
Keep up the happy mapping!
Cheers,
dikkeknodel

59509515 over 7 years ago

Hi Bollizh,
I noticed you added four tourism=memorial, all with the name 'Bunker'. I can hardly imagine that there are 4 memorials witing 100 m that all have the name Bunker. Maybe tourism=memorial is not the best tag. If these are military bunkers they can better be tagged with military=bunker. The name tag should only hold its official name, not a description of what it is.
I'm looking forward to understanding what this is.
Keep up the happy mapping.
Cheers,
dikkeknodel

50323959 over 7 years ago

Hi Toroboro,
Shouldn't the museum be tagged with tourism=museum?
Cheers,
dikkeknodel

59194818 over 7 years ago

Hi Alexheel,
Thanks for getting back on this topic. I'm not sure why I couldn't find the rtsa_scale on the wiki, since it's clearly there. Must be a typo on my side. Maybe you can make a wiki page for key:westra_ref as well, so other people also understand what it means. I see the westra_ref is used even more frequent, is it also for mountain peaks?
Cheers,
dikkeknodel

59344379 over 7 years ago

Hi Andree,
By coincidence I noticed you added the rock south of the Uetliberg viewing point. I totally ignored that this was not on the map the many times I passed it, good job! I noticed some improvement possibilities today and made some changes. Let me explain the reasons.
The natural=cliff tag is directional, the left side of the way is the top of the cliff, the right side is the bottom. You applied it the other way around, which comes down to mapping a steep hole in the ground :-). Additionally the cliff way should follow the top of the cliff, not the bottom.
You also added the area=yes tag, but a cliff is by definition a line, not an area. If you want to map rock area you should use natural=bare_rock
You added an ele tag, which has two problems. You should follow the syntax, and just add the number in meters, or you should follow the syntax as described ele=*. Additionally the elevation of 880 is definitely not correct. The Uetliberg peak is higher than the rock you mapped, and has a verified elevation of 869 m.
Please read the wiki page for more info :
natural=cliff
What I have done: (1) I reversed the cliff's way direction, so the top and bottom are following the definition (and displayed correctly), (2) I moved the way to the top of the cliff, based on the Canton Zürich 2015 imagery, (3) I opened up the cliff way on the north side and added a path to ascent the rock (which is there if I remember correctly), (4) I've made a multipolygon relation for the natural=bare_rock and added the same ways as the inner role of the landuse=forest relation. This creates a gap in the forest rendering and fills it with bare_rock rendering. I see you are rather new to OSM, and understand applying relations is quite hard the first time. If you are interested, you can read more at osm.wiki/Relation:multipolygon. (5) I've removed the elevation tag and moved the description tag to a new node with tourism=viewpoint tag.
You can find all my changes here:
changeset/59591294
and visualized here:
https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=59591294
Keep up the happy mapping!
Cheers, dikkeknodel

29336107 over 7 years ago

Hi PeetTheEngineer,

You state that for this changeset you used Schweiz Mobil as source. As far as I am aware the data at the Schweiz Mobil website is copyrighted data from SwissTopo, which is not allowed to be re-used in OSM. This would mean adding the data is a copyright violation.

Could you please clarify how you used this source?

Cheers,
dikkeknodel

59194818 over 7 years ago

Hi Alexheel,

If I understand correctly, you added the Russian name to mountain passes in Switzerland, Austria, Italy and France. I also see you added the tags rtsa_scale and westra_ref. I notice you give the website of Westra as source for these edits. I can't read Russian, but assume Westra is the Russian Mountaineering association, or similar. Their website mentions a (c) copyright symbol, so I see a potential issue here with if the data is allowed in OSM.
About the tags you added, I don't see anything on wiki.openstreetmap.org about these tags. For these tags to be relevant to all users, not only insiders, it is relevant to make a proposal for these tags on the wiki and discuss about it in my opinion. Now most people won't have a clue what is means and how to use them.

Could you please address these two concerns?

Keep up the happy mapping :-)

Cheers from Switzerland,
dikkeknodel

41627259 over 7 years ago

I meant 2015 actually :).

41627259 over 7 years ago

Hi mtc,
A few months before you created the the Cape Wrath Trail relation I've hiked the southern part of this hike myself. I remember that there are no signposts, so the route is not visibile on the ground. Following the OSM consensus to only map what is visible on the ground, the route relation should not be in OSM.
Had the route been signposted by August 2016?
Cheers, dikkenkodel

53933497 over 7 years ago

Liebe hecktor,
Kannst du versuchen weniger Änderungen in einen changeset zu machen? Jetzt ist es fast unmöglich zu sehen was sich wirklich geändert hat, sicher wenn das Kommentar nur "Korrekturen lwn Einsiedeln" lautet weil es Änderungen in der ganzen Schweiz gibt.
Liebe Grüsse,
dikkeknodel

1293374 over 7 years ago

Hi Adrian,
This happened ages ago, so you probably already know this by now. You tagged way/34945932 and some others next to it as:
highway=cycleway
cycleway=track
The last tag is not correct when the highway itself is already a cycleway. It is meant to be used when the way is a road that also allows cars and there is a separate parallel cycleway (lane or track).
I have changed this today.
Keep up the happy mapping.
Cheers,
dikkeknodel

59013331 over 7 years ago

Hi Michael,

These places are real wild camping places with no facilities nor a designation by any (government) official as it being a camp site. You should see this from the perspective that in the (high) mountains it is often difficult to find a sort of flat space nearby water to pitch your tent for the night, or just not to roll off your mattress.

So from an OSM observability perspective, what is observable is a flat area that stands out in between all of the slopes and is interpreted as 'a great place to pitch a tent' and is therefore valuable to map. At least that's my thoughts.

Although I don't mind too much about the legal aspects, within Switzerland this is actually allowed, see https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedermannsrecht#Schweiz

Reading about camp_site= legal aspects I think "In jurisdictions that allow camping by default: the absence of a sign or other indication may be enough to satisfy the mapper that the site is legal." applies. So yes camp_site_basic may apply to these three and a the few others with camp_type=wildcamping in the alps.

Cheers,
dikkeknodel

51210924 over 7 years ago

These changes have been reverted in changeset/59013331. The wild camp sites have been enriched with additional information following a discussion in changeset/51210935 and input from the original contributor.
Cheers,
dikkeknodel

51210935 over 7 years ago

The revert:
changeset/59012299
The enrichment:
changeset/59012400

22018078 over 7 years ago

Done: changeset/58978320

42341070 over 7 years ago

Hallo nurdafur,
Zufälligerweise hab ich gefunden das zwei deiner Campingplätze wieder gelöscht sind in changeset/51210935.
Weil es wertvoll für Bergsteiger ist diese Wildzeltplätze zu behalten mochte ich die wieder zurücksetzen. Ich mochte sie aber auch bereichern mit camp_type=wildcamp und eine Beschreibung, wie diese: node/3759545415
Weist du noch wie gross die Plätze sind?
Liebe Grüsse,
dikkeknodel