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87520880 almost 5 years ago

See, you write
"People remotely change and remove tags all the time. Almost every edit in OSM is exactly that. It's only an issue in this case because your making it one.

In this case, as I already told you on the Wiki, which you've seemed to ignore for whatever reason, I looked around the website and didn't feel that it was an amenity more then it is somewhere that provides healthcare."

This is exactly the issue. You have removed someone else's tag (in several instances, i.e. actively looking for it with some search engine and putting some effort into it), without any discussion, because you personally felt it "was not an amenity" - despite the tag even being documented in the wiki.

To me it is more an amenity than about "healthcare". healthcare by the dictionary is about "efforts made to maintain or restore physical, mental, or emotional well-being especially by trained and licensed professionals", while a hospice is not about maintaining or restoring well-being, it is about accepting that you have to die and about letting go.

87520880 almost 5 years ago

I do not say: only map where you are on the ground, although I believe it is the best. I say do not remove tags from objects, without further discussion with the local community, in places which you do not know and where you do not know the community. Adding things from aerial imagery bears some risk (e.g. outdated imagery) but acceptable, while armchair removing and changing objects without actual on the ground knowledge is a no go.
I am not usually mapping things in the US, I have added occasionally some stuff from aerial imagery or fixed some self intersecting polygon, but I surely wouldn't remove tags to replace them with others of which I suppose they were the same. Don't know about Polar Bearing, SomeoneElse or Woodpeck, but I can confirm they are European.

97211399 almost 5 years ago

ich habe den engl. Wikieintrag unter key:building repariert und dem Eintrag tag|building|fire_station angepasst. Der building tag ist immer auf Gebäude bezogen und sagt nie etwas darüber aus, wer das Gebäude aktuell nutzt. Eine ehemalige Feuerwache erhält denselben building tag wie eine in Betrieb befindliche, weil building kein tag ist, mit dem eine Feuerwache beschrieben werden kann. Dafür gibt es amenity=fire_station (auf dem gesamten Areal, alternativ und vorläufig auch einfach als Punkt (node)).

87520880 almost 5 years ago

Btw: the tag has almost zero uses because you and others have removed them in the past months. By the time you removed it, there were still much more than there are now.
You are right that we could just add the tag back, but we are having this discussion here because you are a very active mapper and as I think there are some misconceptions I believe it is more effective to solve the issues at the root by raising awareness.

87520880 almost 5 years ago

Adamant, I take back the "disguised", and I beg your pardon for having forgotten that we have already talked about it. Still, there clearly is an issue, you are remotely editing stuff in an area which you do not know, removing tags that locals have set, without giving a clear reason. Which part of the wiki is about removing tags that you are basing your reasoning upon? I am not aware that the wiki would justify remote mappers removing tags from objects in areas they do not know about.

97211399 almost 5 years ago

zum Thema building und building:part, das ist eigentlich ganz einfach: beide tags beschreiben nur das Gebäude, nicht die Nutzung darin. Für Nutzer braucht man noch andere tags, am besten auf eigenen Objekten (z.B. nodes). Nutzer haben tags wie amenity, office, shop, craft, etc.

87481796 almost 5 years ago

strange, another town where you removed an amenity=hospice tag? There is no reason to remove it, you did not set a different amenity tag. I believe this is part of a disguised undiscussed edit.

87520980 almost 5 years ago

strange, another town where you removed an amenity=hospice tag? There is no reason to remove it, you did not set a different amenity tag. I believe this is part of a disguised undiscussed edit.

87520880 almost 5 years ago

strange, another town where you removed an amenity=hospice tag? There is no reason to remove it, you did not set a different amenity tag. I believe this is part of a disguised undiscussed edit.

87520870 almost 5 years ago

Hi, I noticed you removed the amenity=hospice tag. Can you explain the reasoning?

71990985 almost 5 years ago

Hi, habe gesehen dass Du mit dem großen Besen da durch gegangen bist. Wieso wurde der building:levels tags vom Audimax entfernt?

97211399 almost 5 years ago

ich kenne zumindest ein prominentes Feuerwehrgebäude in Deutschland, das nicht als Feuerwache genutzt wird: das Gebäude das für die Werksfeuerwehr in Weil am Rhein auf dem Vitra Firmengelände von Zaha Hadid errichtet wurde.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=vitra+fire+station+in+weil+am+rhein+germany&t=h_&ia=web

96484112 almost 5 years ago

always the same scheme: your representation is "better", this update again removed a lot of detail in favor of a medium scale generalization which could be automatically constructed from the details if somebody wanted. revert.

96484414 almost 5 years ago

any explanation why your representation is "better"?

96500538 almost 5 years ago

another place where Città dei Palmi has deleted detailed landuse and has replaced it with a questionable polygon that errateously contains a lot of different landuse like landuse=highway and landuse=railway. Revert.

96500890 almost 5 years ago

better church representation and also deleting a natural=wood for no reason?

96821705 almost 5 years ago

accurate geometry of way/564140923 deleted without any mention in the comment or reasoning.

96822096 almost 5 years ago

another example of detailed landuse replaced by a gigantic and untrue landuse=meadow. Please stop replacing detailed landuse. Please check the meaning of landuse=meadow.

96919180 almost 5 years ago

Buongiorno Città di Palmi, ho notato che in questo changeset hai cancellato una serie di alberi che sembra ci siano. Vorrei far notare che l'inserimento di un natural=tree_row non comporta l'eliminazione di singoli alberi.

Un saluto,
Martin

PS: Ti chiedo di essere più rispettoso con gli oggetti che già ci sono. Non è accetabile cancellare geometrie perché tu ritieni con molto meno dettaglio le cose sono rappresentate a sufficienza. Se qualcuno ha investito il tempo di inserire oggetti (che esistono / sono osservabili "on the ground"/ in loco) non è accettabile che qualcun'altro li cancella senza discussione e accordo.

96935969 almost 5 years ago

non sono del posto, ma per le fermate (compresi i capolinea) dovrebbe essere semplice trovare il nome: c’è scritto sul palo/cartello. Invece qualora ci fossero varianti nel orario stampato/in rete, quel nome va in “ref_name”
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/ref_name