dieterdreist's Comments
| Changeset | When | Comment |
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| 43829592 | over 8 years ago | You have inserted every hall as its own philharmonic theatre and tourism attraction. Both does not seem corresponding to reality. Maybe the Parco della Musica can be considered a tourist attraction as a whole, certainly not every single stage as its own. Please fix. |
| 13839941 | over 8 years ago | this is an undiscussed automatic edit and should be reverted |
| 48263622 | over 8 years ago | why did you remove some tags from here? Looks like an undiscussed semiautomatic edit... |
| 28238776 | over 8 years ago | Please let's not mix tagging and a specific rendering style (like red dots for footways), but rather focus on the meaning of the tags. The "standard style" rendering is just one rendering of many, and not even the one most people are using (if you look at mobile apps based on OSM data with millions of users, like maps.me).
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| 16446237 | over 8 years ago | this import was not discussed |
| 16446237 | over 8 years ago | the license of the imported data is not compatible, as it is cc-by 4.0 |
| 13811544 | over 8 years ago | see also https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2017-April/032245.html |
| 14291703 | over 8 years ago | another changeset where parks have been changed to garden where it doesn't apply, see also https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2017-April/032245.html |
| 13811544 | over 8 years ago | this is an undiscussed automatic edit and should likely be reverted |
| 32994098 | over 8 years ago | you also deleted the steps on the metro garbatella parking. Please be carefull and don't delete stuff that is there. I have used these stairs today. |
| 32994098 | over 8 years ago | you should not delete ways and redraw them, because this obfuscates the history, better modify the existing structures. You also introduced dual carriageways where there is no physical separation (parking access road) |
| 13811544 | over 8 years ago | ho notat che hai cambiato parrechi parchi in giardini, qual'è il criterio? Per me questo "giardino" in OSM è un leisure=park
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| 28238776 | over 8 years ago | btw.: you are the only one seriously engaging in a discussion about this, for which I am grateful, but it also illustrates my point that there isn't an active mapping community in Venice (unfortunately). |
| 28238776 | over 8 years ago | Hello Sputnik,
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| 48084737 | over 8 years ago | Ciao, ho notato che hai modificato la classificazione del "Calle del Fontego dei Tedeschi" e del "Ramo del Fontego dei Tedeschi" da footway a pedestrian. Mi sembra una modifica strana. Ci sono stato 4 giorni fa e per me si tratta chiaramente di footway, non hanno l'ampiezza di una strada, sono percorsi più piccoli. Ti chiedo di aiutarci a ripristinare la gerarchia dei spazi e percorsi, tenendo soltanto quelli grandi come pedestrian (e tutte le aree / cortili come highway=pedestrian, area=yes) mentre i percorsi piccoli dovrebbero essere footway. |
| 28238776 | over 8 years ago | I do not object to discussions, rather the opposite, I have started one with you and on the national italian mailing list, where I have also asked about local mappers. It just doesn't look as if there is anything like a community of Venetian mappers. People on the Italian mailing list said Venice was still recovering from the license change in 2012, 5 years ago. Don't worry, I won't continue mapping in Venice now, I was there for some days and used the time to do on the ground surveys and mobile mapping, but have left the city now. I couldn't wait to do this because I knew I would be leaving soon, and I didn't want to waist the time there without having the map benefitting from on the ground verification and modification. As to the "emerged standard", I will repeat what I have already written above: the emerged standard for highway =pedestrian is that it describes a road. Most of the ways in Venice with this tag aren't roads in any sense, they are very narrow footways with no vehicle traffic whatsoever. Area=yes with highway=pedestrian are highway areas of any kind and size of squares, there is absolutely no problem if these are accessible only by footways, and there is no consistency problem at all if this is the actual situation on the ground, if you believe it is then please explain why.
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| 28238776 | over 8 years ago | there is no consistency in my eyes if 50cm wide passages where not even 2 pedestrians can pass each other are mapped the same as a some meter wide road. All my changes are the result of surveys I have been doing the past days and I do believe they improve the map so I will not revert them. I think I am improving consistency by applying these changes. If there's no wide enough way leading to a square it will indeed be impossible for vehicles to reach them, also in reality (typically you won't see vehicles in most of venetian land based ways anyway), but footway in general doesn't automatically imply no vehicle can go there (bicycles and motorcycles might be (exceptionally) permitted by access tags or might ignore legal restrictions, emergency vehicles could pass anywhere where space is sufficient, etc.) |
| 28238776 | over 8 years ago | if I ever will go to Japan, I guess I will complain about their highway classification as well, Venice is simply much more important for me (I'm going there sometimes and am living in Italy). I think pedestrian + area=yes is not comparable to pedestrian as a linear way. I do not complain for it being used for all the small squares (and believe it is in line with the wiki and common practice), quite the opposite: many of them aren't mapped yet, and those that are have often mapped their topology wrong (they do not share borders with the surrounding buildings but leave a "gap of undefinition"/suggest to have something between them and the buildings. This is another frequent problem with the mapping here (I'm in Venice at the moment). The question of the red dots (or gray in case of private streets and alleys) is a decision of the ism-carto rendering style, which might or not change in the future. Regarding your comments on the local community: I guess it is quite small (judging from the state of the map and contributions to talk-it, and also from the replies to my post regarding the pedestrian problem), maybe there's noone or max. a handful actually from Venice, the rest has been mapped by tourists and people from the region but not really local to the historic city |
| 28238776 | over 8 years ago | I agree that this is not referring to you particularly. |
| 28238776 | over 8 years ago | thank you for your reply. I am indeed reaching out to the Italian mailing list because I believe it is a very bad decision to tag whatever way as pedestrian highway, a tag that is globally defined. Basically this questionable decision is completely removing any highway hierarchy in Venice and leading to bad results for all data consumers, particularly rendering. It is against any common sense to add a 50cm wide way as pedestrian road. I don't believe it is possible for a local community to distort and stretch the meaning of globally used highway tags so much as it is in this case. |