barrieu's Comments
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| Organisation - let's make it happen! | Most human endeavours and activities have aspects which can be made more 'efficient' or 'successful' but the addition of the Management Process invariably causes things to really fall apart. |
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| What will matter? | Tag: off_topic = yes
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| More on UK rights of way | EM, thank-you for your comment and you are totally correct, councils do have the obligation to maintain RoW, but it is at the bottom of their priority lists, clearing bracken three times a year is un-practical, and personally, I quite enjoy the rougher tracks. I don't wish to complain to the council or anyone else, I'd rather just be out in the country.
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| More on UK rights of way | I guess that's fine if all we wish to plot are the locations of the signs but what of the actual route on the ground between the signs, how do we know if any particular set of footprints are the legal "public footpath".
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| More on UK rights of way | Chilly, again this is probably true with respect to copyright but if there are say two signs say 8 miles apart and the track is either not visible on the ground or there are numerous unofficial parallel tracks how can we define which is the actual ROW ? I think we have two issues here, the first relates to copyright, and the second relates to how we can tag something relating to a legal concept because the actual ROW is not visible on the ground, only the tracks left by decades of usage, which may have no relation to the legal ROW.
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| More on UK rights of way | David, in principle I totally agree, you are correct about the copyrights.
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| Footpaths, bridleways and tracks... | Totally agree on the controversy comment relating to tagging non-roadways. And the differences that the various renderers display the tags seems awkward.
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| Choose a name - any name! | I know this area very well, however, I also have an appalling memory for names. My personal point of view (probably based on the above sentence), is that names don't really matter. Before the Ordnance Survey there must have been thousands of crags, brooks, peaks etc that were not formally named and the good people at the OS (army officers at the time), would have badgered locals in the pub for clarification, what a lark I would have if this happened now !
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| Mapping rural areas | I think we agree on most things and I sense that you guys are as agonised on occasions as myself when trying to determine the status of a way.
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| Mapping rural areas | RichardB : I do have to refer to other maps because the rights of way are often not clearly not defined on the ground either through lack of use or because short cuts have been taken or because people have strayed following sheep tracks etc, they may well be worth mapping but a whole fell-side would then be one great mass of track, not much use to navigate by !
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| Mapping rural areas | I am in the process of doing just that. I walk and cycle to get bridleways and footpaths in the remote areas. It just takes eons, often times traversing the same stretch of paths to get further and further out. I am fortunate in living in South Cumbria insomuch as I have hundreds of miles of paths and tracks, some hardly passable now and many unsignposted. Obviously I need to refer to other maps for research, each local authority retains a 'definitive map' of rights of way which gives very detailed information on rights of way. Without this information you would quite literally be lost (and much of the time be technically trespassing).
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| Mapping forest trails | Stefan, I think you got my humor. I do also think that the rights of way are 'tolerated' to walkers and often cyclists in England, but I think that (in England), to mark a "track" as a right of way, when it clearly in law has no such status is no not doing the OSM any good service.
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| Mapping forest trails | I guess if you are right, therefore any piece of land big enough to land a 747 must by definition be an airport. |
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| Mapping forest trails | Bridleway / public footpath / byway are legal definitions of rights of way and as such can only be marked after reference to the county Definitive Map which is a public document, (many rights of way are not signed on the ground and the routes ambiguous even with reference to a large scale map).
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