I don't know Pre's Trail details, but the segment at way/439441902 doesn't seem to be part of the chipped bark jogging path. So just checking in to see if you know more. thx.

Why is the sawmill (997112059) listed as a building? I don't see a building in any of the latest satellite imagery.

Many of the greens here are mapped as being surrounded by a ring of "rough", but I've never seen a golf course that has their greens ringer by rough grass. Are you sure that isn't fringe grass, more along the quality of "fairway" grass? If so, it should be marked as fairway and not rough.

Hi Ginger Lover,

Thanks for helping to improve OSM by adding golf courses. The community appreciates it.

I was hoping I could reach out to you and correct the way you are working around bunkers that are in the middle of fairways or roughs. Check out way/1050335102 for an example. You are tracing around the "outer" feature, and then making this kind of cul-de-sac where you come towards the bunker and surround it before continuing back out to the enclosing feature.

What you really want to do is combine two different ways (outlines) by creating a "multi-polygon". It is very simple to do. Just draw and tag the inner bunker, and then with a new way, draw the outer fairway/rough and tag it as well. Then select both of those features at the same time by holding down the shift key and clicking each. Then either press "c" to combine/merge them, or right click on either selected why and look for the big "+" in the pop-up panel and select it to merge them both into a multipolygon.

If you have any questions or run into any problems doing this, please reach out and let me know and I'll help you out. Thanks!

Happy Mapping.

Hi there JayMac,

Thanks for working on golf courses, it's great to see the growth over the last couple of years in the number of courses that are mapped.

I see a problem with how you are mapping fairways though and hope that I can correct how you do them. The fairway should either butt up against the green by reusing the same exact points as the green, or it should completely surround the green and be combined with the green into a multipolygon (let me know if you need help in how to do this). It is important that the fairway doesn't cut across the green like I see in several fairways in this edit.

Hope this is helpful. Happy mapping.

Hi CountryDon,

Thanks for helping to improve OSM by adding so many golf courses. The community appreciates it.

I was hoping I could reach out to you and correct the way you are working around bunkers that are in the middle of fairways or roughs. Check out way/1037383941 for an example. You are tracing around the "outer" feature, and then making this kind of cul-de-sac where you come towards the bunker and surround it before continuing back out to the enclosing feature.

What you really want to do is combine two different ways (outlines) by creating a "multi-polygon". It is very simple to do. Just draw and tag the inner bunker, and then with a new way, draw the outer fairway/rough and tag it as well. Then select both of those features at the same time by holding down the shift key and clicking each. Then either press "c" to combine/merge them, or right click on either selected why and look for the big "+" in the pop-up panel and select it to merge them both into a multipolygon.

If you have any questions or run into any problems doing this, please reach out and let me know and I'll help you out. Thanks!

Happy Mapping.

Hello k,

What's up with the little stub of an area at the western edge of Hole 2 with the angle cut across the fairway? The whole area should be a single way and shouldn't be in two pieces and I'm trying to understand why it was created this way so I can help prevent it from happening in the future. Thanks.

FYI, I deleted a couple of ways that were tagged as fairways, but were essentially just duplicates of ways that defined the greens. Not sure why there were two nearly identical ways in a couple of spots.

Hi Doubletab13,

In the future, please make sure you don't overlap areas like the fairways and tees. They should butt up against each other, but not cross.

Thanks.

Also, fairways should be drawn as a single polygon, not breaking them up into many adjoining polygons. Thanks.

Hello Dante,

You might want to check out the following link before drawing more sand traps with inner grass:

https://learnosm.org/en/beginner/id-editor/#drawing-multipolygons

You should be drawing the entire outer ring and tagging it with sand trap and then drawing each inner grass ring (tagging as rough if appropriate), and then selecting all of them and "combining" them into what is known as a multipolygon.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any further questions.

Happy mapping.

Hi there mocinigolf,

You might want to check out the following link before drawing more sand traps with inner grass:

https://learnosm.org/en/beginner/id-editor/#drawing-multipolygons

You should be drawing the entire outer ring and tagging it with sand trap and then drawing each inner grass ring (tagging as rough if appropriate), and then selecting all of them and "combining" them into what is known as a multipolygon.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any further questions.

Happy mapping.

FYI, the ways that define a bunker shouldn't overlap. They should be drawn with a single line, not by copy/pasting circles on top of each other. Thanks.

I thought this was Pokemon Go map vandalism when I first saw it, but satellite imagery confirms there is actually some sort of course here. Is this a private house with a golf enthusiast? Do the lines between tees and holes actually criss-cross and go through the corner of the house? Is this your house?

Nice bounding box, dummy.

Nice bounding box, dummy.

While I admire the nostalgia of playing a virtual version of a golf course that is no longer around, if it doesn't exist currently, it should not be added to OpenStreetMap. Can you confirm whether or not this course is actually still there? Thanks.

Hello localbirder,

OSM doesn't have a concept of a green's "fringe", so you shouldn't be creating a ring around a fringe and labeling it "fairway" as there is already a fairway there and it doesn't make any sense to have a fairway inside of another fairway as that is redundant. I've cleaned up this particular area, but figured you might want to keep this in mind when mapping future golf courses. Thx.

Hi there Capn71,

I just wanted to let you know that golf=hole ways aren't meant to define an area around a fairway, but instead being that straight line (or couple of line segments) that show the approximate path from the tee to the green. I'm making a couple of changes around the first hole and thought you might want to know for future mapping you do. Thanks for the contributions.

There is a test version of OSM if you need to test out changes with software that you're developing. Maybe that would work better for you during testing. In the meantime, I'm going to delete this way as it was still there tonight and is officially the largest fairway with 4 nodes defined in the United States.