OpenStreetMap logo OpenStreetMap

Changeset When Comment
133704563 about 2 months ago

For the highway classification, indeed, some are based on physical characteristics (such as width and surface), while others are based on function. Specifically for "living_street" and "path", this has been a topic of discussion among local contributors in Indonesia.

When I first started contributing to OSM, I shared the same view as you — that roads with such characteristics should be classified as "path". However, as I continued observing and interacting with other local contributors, my perspective changed. I later switched to using "living_street" instead of "path" for narrow alleyways around one meter wide.

These small one-meter-wide roads are indeed not physically suitable to be categorized as a "street" in the general sense. But in the Indonesian context, "living_street" serves as a middle ground between the "residential" and "path" classifications. For "residential", we have a common understanding without much disagreement. As for "path", according to the documentation on the wiki, it is not compatible with motorized vehicle use (unless explicitly allowed). A "path" is usually unpaved and not located within a residential area.

This seems to be a special case in Indonesia, where in everyday life, we find many narrow roads that are in fact part of residential areas. Residents use motorcycles to access these areas, and delivery services also use these narrow lanes to deliver goods, either as destinations or shortcuts. This appears to be something quite unique to Indonesia. As a result, in major cities, most local contributors now tend to use "living_street" as a compromise — a middle category bridging "residential" and "path".

This topic has been discussed multiple times in the Indonesian local contributor community forum, but we have not yet reached a final decision — whether to adopt "living_street" with certain exceptions or wait for the "alleyway" proposal.

In the case of this changeset, I see that way/724491805 is still within a residential area and used by people riding motorcycles. For way/251887610, I agree that it should be reclassified as "path".

163090197 10 months ago

Hallo,
A sink island is an area where routing is hindered by issues in the data such as dead end oneways, breaks in hierarchy, access restrictions, etc.
You can find many of these cases in https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/49272 but be aware, not every task in this challenge is a sink island. Some of them are false positive.
Cheers and happy mapping

158687875 11 months ago

Hallo Bang Rivai_Sigit, saya melihat tambahan keterangan nama pada beberapa ruas jalan yang Anda edit. Dalam nama jalan tersebut ada keterangan dalam kurung "Batas Kab. Indragiri Hilir". Alangkah baiknya jika informasi nama jalan ini tidak menggunakan keterangan tambahan berupa batas wilayah karena untuk informasi batas wilayah, dapat menggunakan fitur 'boundary'. Bagaimana pendapat Bang Rivai_Sigit?
---

Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/158687875

161584195 11 months ago

Jika memang Anda memiliki komunitas lokal, silakan bergabung dengan komunitas tersebut dan berusaha mempelajari teknik editing yang benar, setidaknya perhatikan eror-eror yang muncul sebelum Anda upload.

161584195 11 months ago

Sudah berkali-kali Anda diingatkan untuk melakukan editing dengan memenuhi standar yang benar. Sebelum upload, periksa ulang beberapa permasalahan yang terdapat dalam editing Anda. Dalam kasus ini (dan banyak di tempat2 lain yang sudah Anda edit) terdapat 'crossing ways' dan geometri yang menempel pada geometri lain yang tidak menggambarkan situasi sebagaimana keadaan di lapangan. Mohon jangan lanjutkan editing Anda sebelum Anda berkonsultasi dengan komunitas atau editor lain yang bersedia membantu Anda. OpenStreetMap adalah pekerjaan komunitas secara bersama-sama sehingga Anda harus mengindahkan cara-cara edit yang dapat diterima oleh komunitas secara umum.
---
#REVIEWED_BAD #OSMCHA
Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/161584195

161440932 11 months ago

Please be aware when you are editing the geometries. Please check the crossing ways, shared nodes between highways and natural/landuse (most of the time natural and landuse did not share nodes).
---
#REVIEWED_BAD #OSMCHA
Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/161440932

161440709 11 months ago

Sdr. ichsansy2901, sebenarnya apa yang Anda maksud dengan "does not match the path how to make a gps line and color select" dan mohon perhatikan kaidah-kaidah editing yang baik agar kualitas OSM semakin baik bukan malah semakin buruk. Hubungi kami jika Anda perlu bantuan teknis, saya sudah memberikan nomor kontak saya di personal message sebelumnya. Terima kasih

161205717 11 months ago

Hallo terima kasih sudah menambahkan informasi di peta OSM. Untuk bangunan kontrakan, sebaiknya gunakan geometri area dengan tag bangunan "building=yes" lalu bisa Anda tambahkan namanya. Hindari memasukkan informasi yang bersifat privat.
---

Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/161205717

149716372 12 months ago

Judging by the width of this segment, it is to narrow to be a tertiary road. But as a tertiary function, I think it can serve as tertiary road, although it is not a high priority road. In my opinion, this road is "unclassified" as it previously tagged.

156174492 about 1 year ago

Pada jalan ini terdapat tagging "barrier" yang melekat pada way, bukan pada node. Mohon bantuannya untuk mengkonfirmasi letak barrier yang dimaksud pada node. Dari informasi street level imagery dari Kartaview, tidak tampak adanya "barrier" dari sisi Selatan. Berhubung tagging ini berdasarkan 'local knowledge' mungkin bisa diperjelas lokasi barrier-nya. Terima kasih.

133431870 about 1 year ago

I used to tag this kind of "alley" as "path" but since there are problems with motorcycle routing in to these 'gang' then I start using "living_street" with additional "motorcar=no" as other contributor did in Indonesia.
In fact these 'gang' is different from "alley" as we know as a part from "highway=service".

158446147 about 1 year ago

Jalan masuk ke dalam sebuah fasilitas, seperti sekolah dapat anda tambahkan jika memang anda memiliki pengetahuan tentang hal tersebut, baik melalui satelit image, street level imagery ataupun local knowledge (pengetahuan lokal). Bisa menggunakan "highway=service" atau beberapa pilihan jenis jalan yang tersedia.
Geometri bangunan tidak seharusnya menempel pada jalan karena jalan pun ada lebarnya (bisa diberi tambahan tag "width=" dan "lanes=")

158443508 about 1 year ago

Sdr. ichsansy2901, editan yang anda lakukan mengubah geometri-geometri bangunan yang sudah benar. Mohon gunakan kaidah-kaidah editing yang benar sebelum mulai mengubah geometri-geometri yang sudah ada.

158446147 about 1 year ago

Sdr, ichsansy2901 mohon diperhatikan cara anda mengedit. SMPN 3 Bekasi sudah memiliki geometri yang baik sebelum anda edit ulang.

118194125 about 1 year ago

Thank you for your confirmation.
Cheers!

78138844 about 1 year ago

Please confirm this access tag "motorcar=no" in this way/575122379. From the satellite view (ESRI World Imagery), it is very clear that there are some motorcar in this road.

86311466 about 1 year ago

I am wondering if this way/780575239 and way/780573808 should be service roads to the Universitas Muhammadiyah Malang. Please check again.

118194125 about 1 year ago

I found this road (way/563721694) is wide enough for motorcar to pass (Bing aerial imagery). Is there any reason why this road is "motorcar=no"?

157866189 about 1 year ago

Sdr. ichsansy2901, sebelum anda melakukan perubahan geometri jalan/bangunan dll, tolong cek dan ricek posisi dari acuan gambar satelit dan bandingkan dengan rekaman GPS (jika tersedia). Perubahan yang anda lakukan seringkali malah membuat geometrinya melenceng dari rekaman GPS.

157739433 about 1 year ago

Sdr. Ichsansy2901, mohon untuk memperhatikan cara-cara pengeditan geometry dalam OSM yang baik dan benar. Hasil editan saudara berpengaruh terhadap geometri-geometri lain yang sudah dikerjakan editor lain. Demikian juga dengan sistem tagging yang digunakan, sesuaikan dengan petunjuk dari OSM (osm.wiki)
---

Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/157739433