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91547672 over 5 years ago

Did you do a site visit and confirmed that the name has changed? Like I said in my comment on the note, the signage said "Cowichan Lake Sports Arena" a couple of months before the note was added, and was skeptical that the reported name change had occurred. If you confirmed that it has, then so be it.

91131194 over 5 years ago

A road crossing a waterway doesn't necessarily mean there's a bridge. Many of these crossings on logging roads are culverts, especially if it's a minor waterway like some of these likely are. Unless you know there's a bridge there, it would be better to leave it as an "issue" so someone can know to check it in person and confirm which type of crossing it is. I do this myself when I'm out driving these logging roads.

91060419 over 5 years ago

Yeah, I'm not sure what its purpose is. It looks somewhat temporary, but it's been there for a number of years now. I've reverted this changeset, which restores the objects to the way they were.

91060419 over 5 years ago

This reservoir was created early in the process of the creation of the Glenshire Business Park, so it was fairly modern. I could still see it in some 2019 imagery, but I haven't been by there in a little while. I know there was some more construction happening up in that part of the business park, so it's possible that it wasn't needed anymore and has since been removed so buildings can be built there. This should probably be confirmed by a site visit, though.

90374826 over 5 years ago

Many of these driveways and tracks exist in reality, so I've restored them and tagged them access=private. A few of the trails and tracks don't appear to exist anymore, so I didn't restore those.

90340177 over 5 years ago

tower:type=broadcast has only been used 4 times and doesn't really tell us much more about these than tower:type=communication. It might be better to change these back to the documented tower:type=communication and then add additional tags like communication:radio=yes or communication:television=yes to indicate which communication methods are hosted by the tower. (tower:type=communication)

Also, I'm curious what your source is for these names. I haven't been able to find a source that says these towers have names. The ISED site is a bit of a nightmare to find anything. :)

89708181 over 5 years ago

What was your source for this change? Kapoor Main has always been strictly off-limits to the general public by any mode of transportation. It seems unlikely that foot/bicycle/etc. traffic is now allowed.

88962380 over 5 years ago

Also, I'm willing to give some leeway in discussing the TCT/TGT project in general. While I don't believe it was a "national embarrassment", it wasn't a glowing success story either. Some good did come from it by triggering the creation of a number of good trails, but it fell significantly short of the original vision. The original vision has been watered down so many times that it's almost been lost in the mists of time, but it was originally going to be a pair of parallel trails for non-motorized use and separated from roadways by enough distance to mask traffic noise and reduce the chance of collisions. When I did some research not long after it was announced to be "completed", 65-80% of it was on road shoulders or water routes, so it isn't even close to the original vision. The stretch of the TCT/TGT where the 1985 cycling tragedy occurred west of Calgary (the original inspiration for the project) was designated as using the highway shoulder and missed the point in a most distressing fashion. As it stands today, I don't think those currently involved with the TCT/TGT even know what it is themselves or what their goal is/was, so there's no point using their input to guide our decisions here.

88962380 over 5 years ago

If you don't mind, I'd like to join this discussion to make a few suggestions:

1. I wasn't aware that some significant changes were already being made to the existing relations, and I bet other Canadian contributors weren't either. There clearly needs to be wider discussion on how to handle the TCT/TGT in OSM. This should be handled through the talk-ca mailing list.

2. In a separate talk-ca discussion, the matter of these proposed routes should be discussed with the wider Canadian community. Like keithonearth, I'm not sure they should be in OSM at this time, but am willing to participate in a discussion where my mind could be changed.

3. I think Sam should provide full disclosure regarding his background with OSM. Namely, that he:
-had previously contributed under a different account years ago (acrosscanadatrails)
-allowed his far-reaching edits to be redacted at the time of the license change, leaving behind a lot of broken data and burning bridges
-had previously created unofficial cycle routes in the OSM database in the Victoria area (and possibly other areas), apparently in support of an intended book

For now, all editing of the TCT/TGT and the proposed routes should stop until wider consensus is achieved, and then a coordinated effort can be undertaken to make sure the OSM data makes sense.

88965791 over 5 years ago

I agree with the others. Even if they don't have any tags, an intermediate node is assumed to mean that the way is known to pass through that point (look at the nodes on any road). Unless you know (or it's a reasonable assumption) that a way passes through a point, you shouldn't add a node there. Clearing *potential* errors from a validator is not a valid reason for adding arbitrary nodes.

RU (Google Translate):
Я согласен с остальными. Даже если они не имеют каких-либо тегов, предполагается, что промежуточный узел означает, что путь, как известно, проходит через эту точку (посмотрите на узлы на любой дороге). Если вы не знаете (или это разумное предположение), что путь проходит через точку, вам не следует добавлять туда узел. Удаление *потенциальных* ошибок из валидатора не является веской причиной для добавления произвольных узлов.

88369113 over 5 years ago

No problem. I was just wondering why there was an emergency phone in the middle of a tennis court. :D

88130654 over 5 years ago

fixme is a free-form text tag that allows contributors to communicate with other contributors. There's no point in restricting it to a list of possible values, because it can be used for a massive number of reasons. The wiki article for the tag gives a few examples, but those shouldn't be taken as a restrictive list of possible values.

88369113 over 5 years ago

What was your source for these locations? Based on my sources, there aren't phones at any of these locations.

88130654 over 5 years ago

In addition to this being an undiscussed mass edit, I don't understand what benefit is supposed to come from this change. Some information has been lost (e.g. "Does the road continue here?" changed to "continue?"), and some non-English values have been changed to English (e.g. "Fortsetzung?"). I think this changeset should be reverted and you need to make your case for why you think it's a good idea to normalize these notes.

87109770 over 5 years ago

Are you sure the old pathway is now designated for bikes as well? I thought it would be staying as pedestrian-only and the new one closer to Dallas Road (not yet mapped) would be for cyclists.

87108609 over 5 years ago

A proposed bike route probably shouldn't be on the map, and definitely not tagged as an active route. It might be best to wait until the route officially opens and signage goes up.

85780609 over 5 years ago

Can you clarify what these names are? They seem unlikely to be names for these properties. They look more like descriptive labels, which isn't what the "name" tag is meant to be used for.

85727572 over 5 years ago

The roads within these rest areas are unnamed access roads, so I've removed the names from these two and the Cobble Hill one to the north.

84709919 over 5 years ago

A map note (note/2184170) pointed out that this is an unlikely location for this business. Anyone looking at the map would be able to tell that an ink shop wouldn't be inside a fire hall. Again, it's clear that you've requested coordinates from the business and they've just given you what they have on Google, which is incorrect and also violates the OpenStreetMap licensing. You need to find another and more reliable way to get coordinates from these businesses, as well as apply some basic data verification when the coordinates you're given are suspect (like if they're in a fire hall). Blindly entering data provided to you and waving your hands saying "Well, that's what they gave us" isn't good enough. I've seen other edits from your colleagues at GetintheLoop (Alecia, Allison, etc.) that aren't of the greatest quality either, so please make sure you all get on the same page and ensure you're putting sufficient effort into these edits.

I've moved this node to the correct location, which is the next address to the southwest (where the address node for 4404 Cowichan Lake Road was already located, which also should have indicated to you that something wasn't right).

84292735 over 5 years ago

Okay, maybe you didn't use Google yourself, but the information provided to you was clearly taken from Google due to that obvious typo in the address. If you're working for some kind of marketing company, you should advise your clients that they can't copy what they have on Google and get you to add it to OSM, because that violates the license compatibility and their business may just get removed. Based on what I've been seeing with a number of your changesets, this seems to be happening quite a bit, so you should probably compare the provided information with Google to see if the client has copied information from there.

Also, if you are entering data on behalf of someone else, you should say so in your changeset description and/or update your profile to say that you're working for a company that's entering data on behalf of clients. Otherwise, you're the one solely responsible for the data you enter, along with any suspicion of the quality or source of the data.

One last piece of advice: before adding something because it "wasn't on map", please check first to make sure that this is true. You've uploaded a number of duplicates before, possibly because the client told you they weren't on the map when they actually were. Check around the general area first to make sure the business isn't already there in a slightly different location or with unexpected tags.