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164323974 9 months ago

fajne miejsce^^ tylko na fragmencie to sa jednokierunkowe (z e=definicji) pasy ruchu rowerowego, a potem jest dwukierukowa droga dla rowerów, która mozna mylić z jednokierunkową.
potem to wyklikam ;]

164294383 9 months ago

jeśli on zrobił survey i nie odnalazł oznakowania w terenie, to żaden dowód, że jakiś szlak nieistnienie. To czy szlak może być formalny, czy nieformalny, w to nie będę wnikał.
Ale jeśli @Mrksmlk usuwa, a powinien go przenieść np z chodnika na jezdnie, bo jest szlakiem rowerowym.
Skoro relacje tworzą wam problem tak ogólnie, bo są i utrudniają mapowanie, to co mam powiedzieć. Jest 120 zmian w historii i mi się nie ładuje. Ale czy to powód by kasować?
Zaraz pewno jacyś rowerowcy z Wawy od tej pętli się zorientują, że ktoś im chyłkiem skasował i się nie spytał, ale nie wnikam ;]

164294383 9 months ago

1 minuta w guglu:
http://kruh.pl/krwawa/
Krwawa pętla to __nieformalna__ nazwa pieszego szlaku znakowanego na czerwono znanego jako Warszawska Obwodnica Turystyczna ...

164291586 9 months ago

additionally entrances at the far west are indeed not only segregated, but also separated, because @Amadeo_Sendiulo was correct theres, even tho signage is not that precise to tell, especially at "intersections" areas of the road

163958007 9 months ago

podziwiam two dwukreskowo batalie, ale widzisz, chodniki sie wielokreskuje, ale rowerówek jusz nie, a czmusz? bo taa

163954902 9 months ago

skoro to jest plan projektowy, to kiedy data rozpoczęcia prac i planowanego zakończenia?

163866087 9 months ago

ale zauwazyles, ze najbardziej aktualne fotki pokazuja, że ten tor zrównali i jak ktos tam znów jeździ, to pewno jeszcze w innym układzie? :)

163791238 9 months ago

law may disallow crossing a dual carriage way, nontheless if people cross it at that certain route i don't see a reason to not map it. As for tram crossings, they do hold a big value, because you know that you do cross one on your way, coz you know ahead of time that you gotta yeld for instance. But like i said, aanyone can map any tags. Only some people do delete em i gues.

163791238 9 months ago

oh wow, so now i'm getting reported everytime? xD
This is a crossing that's there since like 30 years i live there. Not going to elaborate on local laws, coz that's spotty and even dear YNH doesnt follow laws in his city mapping. Tho if someone needs to go crazy with tags there, sure. Last time i went crazy with tagging using specified wiki examples, all was deleted, Best regards.

163502900 9 months ago

sprawdzaj dokładnie co zapisujesz, bo wygenerowałes błędy geometrii, które inni muszą po tobie poprawiać.
Jak będziesz w przyszłości generował zmiany z ostrzezeniami, to będa wycofywane w całości.
Naprawiaj ostrzezenia przed zapisem.

163668009 9 months ago

to nie są klify, tam mozna sobie z buta chodzić w dowolnym kierunku bez sprzętu wspinaczkowego ;]

163475742 10 months ago

z pasami ruchu sa takie czary, że do liczby pasów ruchu nie wlicza się pasów rowerowych xD
Ale w sumie nieważne, jest dobrze w podobny sposób jak było dobrze wcześniej.

163475742 10 months ago

generalnie tutaj wchodzi ten problem dwukreskowy, bo ta jezdnbia nie powinna być rozdzielona, np dlatego, że nie tworzy dwóch osobnych przejść dla pieszych, tylko jedno xD
Ale abstrachując, jak chcesz mozesz wbić na discorda (fajny nowoczesny komunikator jak nie znasz) pogadamy. Sam zdecydujesz czy gra jest warta świeczki, bo przyznam chce mi się mniej jak kiedyś po ostatnim ;]

163223662 10 months ago

ale to nie w tym miejscu zmapowałeś xD
I nie, nie jest zaspawany ;]

163262678 10 months ago

no i jak, jest przejście? xD
czy brama od 10 lat nieotwierana tak zarośnieta? ;)

163137756 10 months ago

Oh yeah, i have met a lot of people and community is great, wouldn't be around otherwise. And there are different people fully supporting two-lining and one-lining.
In the thread you linked, there are advocats of different methods as well. There is a topic in Polish community section and there are also different supporters. What enrages people most, is when someone maps in detail by two-lining and then someone deletes it all, merges up somewhat and doesn't even tag properly the one-line outcome.
-- this happened there as well.

My argument was not that the one in question who kept reverting my work, remapped it all one-lining. It was that he didn't even bother to tag it properly.
All the information i have tagged is gone. Sight impaired people can't make any use of this now.
You can read up it there: tactile_paving=*

theDM argued about some controversy on wiki, but there is none described in the S5 section of osm.wiki/Bicycle#Miscellaneous It actually clearly specifies what i did, so i did not act against it.

As it writes "...each way has its supporters and opponents. "
As i understand, the priority of mapping OSM is to give reliable information to routing companies. I the data is not reliable anymore and details necessary for it are being removed, this lowers OSM value as data source.
But do tell, if a group of peole can enforce their way of thinking on other community group of people like me, and some people in the local community of the same country feel bad, do we prioritize those people over reliable routing data input?

I really don't have to map tactile_paving info at all, if you think the local community fells bad about it being mapped properly.
I don't have any blind friends to oppose.

163137756 10 months ago

* tactile_pavement has not been remapped in his one-lined style
both for curb nodes and footways
* crossings dont have information about its markings or traffic island
* surface information is vaque on crossings of all type
* footway crossings with a cycleway has spotty info if its actually a crossing, what kind of crossing and in what route relation it actually crosses.

@SomeoneElse you have all the tools to check it up. We can go one by one, but you won't have to do anything if you want to keep this mapping unprecise as it is now.

163380487 10 months ago

i speak about all missing informations, you speak just about the 1% you didn't even do properly.
But when i tell about it, this is misinformation. Go win USA presidential elections with that logic of yours.

Fix all features you have broken or i will have to do it myself. Again...

163380487 10 months ago

this change doesn't restore even 1% of the lost data you have reverted

163378813 10 months ago

it specifies:
> On footways, when there is a line all the way on the footway highway=footway.

It doesn't specify to tag on a way paraller to that footway, which you did and it's impossible to say if it's a on a cycleway or not.

You are mapping fiction now. Revert your vandalism that removed all this information and map it somewhere else where it is missing if you're learning to do so.

Removing detailed work of someone else is ot permitted. Face it