For the whole world - taginfo https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/bicycle_parking#map

Broken CD? Broken as in scratched rather than in a million pieces.

Even CDs are getting old hat ..

And in some countries marriages can be conducted in backyards, beaches, parks, mountain tops.

Hopefully on the wiki.

If not then asking on a talk group,

‘We’ all make errors from time to time. Don’t be afraid of making them … it is one of the ways ‘we’ learn. Most of the time I catch mine a day later. Much more important to add new things rather than simply modify old things. Roads, tracks, paths and huts are also ‘missing’ in the area… go for it.

Well spotted TheSwavu … I do wonder if adding all those areas and easements is really worthwhile.. I’d certainly not add them if I were simply tracing off the LPI Base Map. I was wondering if another relation to separate up the ways would have helped.

I have just downloaded the garmin map rendering .. with mapnik typ .. that is rendering correctly. Dated 26/3/16 .. so it was ok some time ago (rendering takes some time so data would have been before that date). http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/ The rendering on osm.org/ is not correct .. this may ‘just’ be a rendering issue there.

Guide books are general copyright … don’t use them to get data unless they are copyright free or you have specific permission in writing. If you do have specific permission then you need to add it to the OSM data somewhere - do a google to find it. You can use the LPI Base map … that does have cliff positions … if not names of clifts, It does have the major creek names, hill tops names and some other names.

The original boundary I put in would be accurate to within 3 metres .. meaning they should not be moved. Broken into segments - yes, moved no. Some adjacent things have a gap - a legal easement between them - so they should not be combined. Entering the original data is easy - breaking it up into shared ways takes time.

The stuff I saw yesterday in JOSM is correct as far as JOSM can ‘see’. But I did not download all the combined relations. That will take some time - I don’t have that at the moment. Once I do that (some weeks) I’ll then break up the large area into adjacent small areas and see what renders .. where it does not I’ll look in detail for ‘errors’, if I cannot ‘see’ errors then I’ll break up those into smaller bits and so on untill I find out what is happening.. process of elimination.

You will also have the occasional cloud … a different image provider can help, though usually you would be using the one with the best resolution so the second one won’t be as good.

I usually use bing, with mapbox being the secondary image provider. Hoping for cloud free images, or at least one cloud free.

Humm .. nothing I can ‘see’ as an error.

I’ll give it some time (weeks) and see what happens. if it still does not render than I’ll chop up the large area in to several smaller areas to try and isolate the problem, this is not something that is ‘good’ but a work around to find the problem. Once the problem is found and fixed I’d recombine the areas back into one area. Finding the problem will be much simpler with a much smaller area. I think that is a way of working out what is going on?

Cliffs … Can be mapped using the LPI Base Map … I think this is better than trying to use an image or contour lines, they are fairly clear in the Base Map - making mapping easy. I have added a few … but here are lots in there.

The Warba (sp?) Ridge Trail .. I will have to go back and mark that as ‘disused’ as I have found out that NP want it to ‘disappear’ by regrowth. It is still there and some parts won’t regrow for quite some time.

I put the Wollemi NP boundaries in from The LPI Admin boundaries, simplified the ways using JOSM to 3 meters, and combined them with various boundaries for common ways. I’ll have a look at the present configuration and see if there are any errors. Note that using the LPI Admin boundaries is much better (more accurate and less time) than using the Base Map. When I put them in … I was disappointed that they did not render .. but left them for some time. I did alter another mapper about it and they looked at it .. but nothing significant happened. As you say it is a large area. Relation: Wollemi National Park (5901253) .. edited 13 hours ago. Humm no reall change as far as I can see, other than some source entries on way that are not absolutely correct. Other than the deletion of area I have named .. and those names are real, so I have re entered them.

That did not come out well … an edit.

A year? Time flys!

Road classification probably done to suit the majority .. western people. Simply a function of where OSM started and the support base of people.

For the less ‘well developed’ using the classification system to indicate what roads to use is the best that can be done. Some map renders will show the road surface (unpaved, dirt, rock, grass, ground are some). There have been attempts to have road difficulty added but those have been rejected .. probably due to a lack of appreciation of the problem in the ‘less well developed’ places.

‘Tracks’ should be possible to use a vehicle along ..think 4WD? If that is not possible I’d use highway=path… but that is for my part of the world.

Looking at ‘it’ (people view of their ‘world’)… everyone expects things to be a certain way in ‘their’ part of the world .. for example supermarkets have a row of chocolate in some places… in other places loafs of bread are sold frozen. So what is a ‘main highway’ can be a different expectation in different parts of the world. I think the ‘top’ and ‘bottom’ are about the same in broad terms, but the middle is very different. And the amount of the ‘top’ and ‘bottom’ simply reflects the wealth or poverty of that part of the world.

A year? Time flys!

Road classification probably done to suit the majority .. western people.

For the less ‘well developed’ using the classification system to indicate what roads to use is the best that can be done. Some map renders will show the road surface (unpaved, dirt, rock, grass, ground are some)add road. There have been attempts to ave road difficulty added but those have been rejected .. probably due to a lack of appreciation of the problem in the ‘less well developed’ places.

‘Tracks’ should be possible to use a vehicle along ..think 4WD? If that is not possible I’d use highway=path… but that is for my part of the world.

Looking at ‘it’… everyone expects things to be a certain way in ‘their’ part of the world .. for example supermarkets have a row of chocolate in some places… in other places loafs of bread are sold frozen. So what is a ‘main highway’ can have a different expectation in different parts of the world.

Tracks 4 Australia i think predates OSM? Anyway … I would like to do a ‘Adventure Australia OSM’ garmin rendering .. but that is a long term thing for me. If i manage to do that .. then I’d release it (of course). Reversing it so as to semi hide the unpaved may be possible .. maybe making them ‘access=no’ where surface=unpaved etc would make it usable for paved only people.

There have been 2 Garmin GPS maps that spring to mind for the 4x4 crowd; Tracks 4 Australia Tracks 4 Africa

The Australian one on out of date … but freely available for download.
Both place emphasis on unpaved roads. The reverse of what you want. But ther is a demand for such maps. And I think most of the demand for these because of the past maps, is from Garmin GPS users.

I would think that the paved ones might have some demand for smart phone use? Possibly OSMand?

Those who think a survey is required to identify a city .. well they need to do some more mapping. (Not napping.)

It should be possible to make a semi automated replacement for trailing abbreviations - those; at the end of the text have a leading space character

They should match a string e.g. St St. st st. Ave etc. and be replaced with the appropriate full string. Each replacement should be confirmed or rejected by a single key/mouse press - thus not a full automation, but removes typo to a great extent.

This process can not only be used for nodes but for ways that are also tagged highway=* areas that are also tagged for addresses (things like buildings, parks may all have street addresses).

I would be a little more cautious of leading abbreviations like Saint.

Hot Coffee .. with warning “Contents Maybe Hot” … ?

I accept no legal responsibility for the acts of Darwin!

Map makers have long included phantom objects (including link roads) to detect copyright infringements. A reasonable person would accept some errors and inaccuracy in any map or other document, to do otherwise is foolish. I suppose that is why ‘we’ have foolish laws.

Well everything will have a ‘primary’ language… OSM chose to use British English. On the OSmwki it is possible to create translations of each key/value tag into any oth r language, thus people from Russia, Spain, japan can contribute. If you wan to contribute to the wiki translation .. feel free!

Repetitive entries … For your ‘bench’ example use the ‘copy and paste’ function of your computer .. select the first bench you entered .. press the control and C keys together and release, then move the cursor to the next bench location .. press control and V keys together an release. And you should have the new bench … repeat as many times as you like. Also works for ‘ways’ (buildings, sports pitches etc).

Good Luck! I have added a few in my local areas.. but I’m a long way from Cardiff. The other things to add are bicycle shops, and bicycle friendly cafes! :)

‘Forest’ has different meaning for different people!!!

To me it means ‘trees’ that are intended to produce products e.g. wooden planks, beams (‘lumber’) wood pulp (for paper) etc.

Another existing tag is ‘natural=wood’ … that meaning has migrated away from my understanding of natural to include ‘artificial’. The key ‘natural’ is poorly though out .. has never been formally discussed on the tagging group and should have the status ‘inuse’ at best. Hopefully this will eventually be replaced with something like ‘landcover=trees’

The proximity alert is used for things like red light cameras, speed cameras… it will work. For my Garmin device it wants a POI file - separate from the map.