Verdy_p's Comments
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| 80105029 | almost 6 years ago | it was already decided (I did not change that, there was already a polygon about it) that they would be isolated at admin_level 2 (even if they are not isolated as recognized states); this is also true for other condominiums (e.g. between Luxembourg and Germany, or between France and Spain), and in other disputed areas (e.g. between China and India or Pakistan and India, or Sudan and South Sudan, or Sudan and Egypt);
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| 79962659 | almost 6 years ago | It's a fact that the wikipedias links were incorrect (some with old or broken redirects) |
| 79962659 | almost 6 years ago | I did not modify or added any border or changed the existing classification. These are common edits that any one does in OSM. |
| 79896310 | almost 6 years ago | @Someonelse, check the datetimes, everything on the talk-es list came hours after that changeset; I've replied to them in due time and acted accordingly... |
| 79896310 | almost 6 years ago | @SomeoneElse: you posted that question after. And I replied now to the list; I had no message from the list before that changeset. |
| 79896310 | almost 6 years ago | I've replied to them. Or did not see any question directly asked to me.
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| 79866781 | almost 6 years ago | Which question have I not replied ?
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| 79639164 | almost 6 years ago | You semm to have never seen that these were NOT the same type of relation.
"type=boundary+admin_level=*" alone is not enough to distinguish relations (see for example the religious boundaries which also have their admin_level...) the "_fraction" type is different; applciations that just want to see full comarcas will ,not load the fractions which are separate kind of objects, not adminsitrative, but related to correctly represent the relation and partial containment of levels 6 and 7 in Spain, where it is not exact. These relatiosn had differnt contents, coverd distinctive areas. The names indicated there are just indicative, I could have put none at all, but it's better for editing users trying to read it, and that's why these names had disambiguation suffixes (nont intended ot be rendered on any map, and not rendered at all in fact. But still useful in statistical reports. This just proves that I was really aware that provinces do not contain full comarcas, this is alsmot the case but not everywhere. There was no error at all, these are "building blocks" useful for data checkin, check unexpected overlaps or incompleteness, and also make relations easier to interpret while still permitting a containment: each "fraction" have two parents not just one, and not the same two parents (they stilll form a graph as a tree with common branches and a common ancestor, but the graph remains acyclic). |
| 79720788 | almost 6 years ago | attention l'ajout de ce parc ^naturel prsè de Tournais a cassé pas mal de relations sur la frontière franco-belge, à la fois en France et en Belgique, j'ai réparé un endroit de frontière franco-belge coupée en deux concernant la France sans reporter les morceaux dans les relations parentes, mais je n'ai pas vérifié tout en Belgique ou au Luxembourg si c'est cassé aussi...
Dans iD on n'a pas ce problème: la scission marche en principe toujours car toutes les relations dépendantes sont chargées quand on scinde un chemin, sinon pour la fusion il la refuse si les tags ne sont pas compatibles ou si les deux chemins ne sont pas membres ensemble des mêmes relations. |
| 79639164 | almost 6 years ago | I'm not "forcing" changes, I'm adding what is missing. I still need some tags for these, and have just used what is currently available, not changing them.
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| 79639164 | almost 6 years ago | I know it is difficult (and the categories used in Wikipedia or Commons or in Wikidata are not making the distinction easy, as all comarcal types are mixed, except in some regions).
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| 79639164 | almost 6 years ago | Note that even if there are multiple comarcal delimitations in regions that still don't have their own official ione, and still use traditional comarcas (still used) and "touristic" comarcas promoted by the deputation of the provincial junta, all of them can coexist in OSM; this is just a matter of distinctive tags.
And a "description=*" filed to exhibit this in human language (possibly translated in several languages, including regional languages spoken in Spain, notably Galician, Asturian, Extremaduran, Aragonese, and Catalan with a relevant language suffix like "description:ca=*")
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| 79639164 | almost 6 years ago | The technical problem of the OSM list server is in their DNS, and the fact the MLM breaks DKIM, and DMARC, leaving only SPF. Not all mail providers support SPF (note: Wanadoo is NOT historic, it is a brand of Orange, a major ISP in France, and lot of French users are forcibly unsubscribed without notice as the mails sent by the OSM MLM are bouncing systematically. Technically the digital signatures for DKIM and DMARC are broken, so the recipient service provider try to check if these mails were usurpated or modified. As all supported check fail because of incorrect installation of OSM MLM servers, the talking tools are not working as they should by mail, there are also many other places and OSM has still not worked seriously on consolidating them; tons of OSM users get then blocked unfairly even if they had some talks, they can't reach everyone they'd like to join).
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| 79639164 | almost 6 years ago | Also you talked with me positively, so after thinking and searching I started to do the job (I was instructed to do that by someone that told me he had ionformed the Spanish community in messages in Spanish).
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| 79639164 | almost 6 years ago | Note: I have no problem for reading Spanish, I just avoid writing talks in Spanish. And not all spanish users even talk Spanish as the country is highly multilingual, including in Aragon (I would have much more problems reading Catalan or Basque, I may interpret Aragonese incorrectly). To limit errors when I write something I just use English but you can reply in Spanish if you prefer, it's not a problem. I have consulted only the talk-es archives but cannot subscribe it. |
| 79639164 | almost 6 years ago | Also the difficulty of the task is not a problem for me. Of course it requires patience and lot of work. I can do that, patiently, calmly.
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| 79639164 | almost 6 years ago | And may you don't know but I have the legal document named "DECRETO LEGISLATIVO 2/2006, de 27 de diciembre, del Gobierno de Aragón, por el que se aprueba el texto refundido de la Ley de Delimitación Comarcal de Aragón", published on 30 December 2006 in BOA n° 149. I use it to find decrepencies (e.g. missing "alt names" used by the region, different from those used by IDEE, and forgotten in OSM).
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| 79639164 | almost 6 years ago | No I do not ignore that. I spoke about the agrarian ones but not for Aragon.
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| 79639164 | almost 6 years ago | So in conclusion I do not ignore the community, I take their input in consideration; beside the minor name incorrect in the subrelation that could have been fixed, but was blindly removed with everything else, without any prior talk to suggest easy fixes and explain what we can do...
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| 79639164 | almost 6 years ago | This was already fixed in that subrelation.
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