Hi Garth,

That's correct- I'm not sure why both trails are entered into OSM as one continuous track. Do you know an easy way to separate and correctly label them?

Hi all,

Thank you for your input. I apologize for the late response.

I have personally reached out to eerib with the following information.

I would encourage local editors to reach out to the local and provincial jurisdictions who deal with land management in this area. I have provided the contact information for the entities in which I would suggest you start with at the bottom of this comment.

Building trails on crown or provincial park land without a permit is illegal in British Columbia. The same goes for lands of British Pacific Properties Ltd.
I have had a chance to reach out and hear back from North Shore Rescue, and they are concerned about illegal trails showing on public maps. Furthering public access to illegally built trails on crown, park, and private land has been known to contribute to increased frequencies in callouts and near miss situations.

Have you reached out to the federal and provincial jurisdictions who govern and regulate what happens on these lands? I would strongly encourage involving them in this conversation prior to making further edits in the area. Here are a few links I would suggest you start with:

North Shore Rescue https://www.northshorerescue.com/contact/
District of West Vancouver https://westvancouver.ca/contact-us
BC Parks https://bcparks.ca/info/feedback/
British Pacific Properties LTD https://britishproperties.com/
Province of British Columbia (Crown Land and Water Use) https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/industry/crown-land-water/crown-land

Cheers, TaxusB

Hi marczoutendijk,

I understand what you are saying.

This evening, I will be able to add access rights to reflect the private landscape (as per the West Vancouver's planning documents; https://westvancouver.ca/sites/default/files/dwv/westvancouverite/upper-lands/Upper-Lands-About%20the%20lands%20in%20Cypress%20Village-Nov2020.pdf).

I have received a message suggesting that trails on private land should be able to be removed. Would you recommend that I change the access rights first, then delete the trails?

I will be at work all day- if it is possible to have the DWG undo the deletions during the day, that would be great.

Thanks,
TaxusB

Thanks for your input.

I'd be curious to further discuss why: 1. trails "must maintain on the map" and under what authority mandates this; and 2. why environmental concerns are not a good reason for removing trails from OSM when trails are unsanctioned and occur in environmentally sensitive habitat types.

Recent increases in visitor traffic have resulted in erosion and degradation to fragile Arbutus type ecosystems. This is likely a result of increased ease of accessibility through widespread mapping programs that source OpenStreetMap data.

Furthermore, these trails are unsanctioned and are at risk of being closed down by BPP LTD due to unauthorized access and use.