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118605921 about 3 years ago

Ha, i didn't know about that one :)

yes, it is outdated, we'd need to merge them, maybe into a new "Bus routes in Ljubljana" page

118605921 about 3 years ago

FYI, there is a list of bus LPP bus lines in wiki: osm.wiki/WikiProject_Slovenia/Javni_prevozi
I have updated the wiki with the new relation, but it probably needs more updates...

127789808 about 3 years ago

Did they start building this road yet?

127197067 about 3 years ago

Tnx, will check and remove tomorrow, but don't mind if they are removed earlier.

112654434 about 4 years ago

Hej, a source tag na changesetu se ni v JOSMu samodejno nastavil na "RABA-KGZ"?

83998955 over 4 years ago

Agree, the redacted information (unit name) is published for all to see in several places, some describing the location in detail:

https://www.grosuplje.si/objava/240049
http://www.slovenskavojska.si/struktura/poveljstvo-sil-sv/enota-za-elektronsko-bojevanje-eeb/
http://www.zvvs.si/?stran=novica&id=2126
https://www.mojaobcina.si/grosuplje/novice/slovesnosti-ob-dnevu-eeb-se-je-udelezil-tudi-direktor-obcinske-uprave-mag-dusan-hocevar.html
https://www.facebook.com/429873280405902/posts/v-petek-3-julija-2020-je-v-kamni-gorici-na-obrobju-grosupljega-kjer-ima-svoj-sed/3193438470716022/
https://grosuplje.e-obcina.si/objava/271497
https://www.gov.si/drzavni-organi/organi-v-sestavi/generalstab-slovenske-vojske/o-generalstabu-slovenske-vojske/poveljstvo-sil/enota-za-elektronsko-bojevanje-eeb/

97566698 almost 5 years ago

Hey, may I ask why you deleted the node
node/208592566
which was a node representing a country? place=country

83319071 over 5 years ago

Thank you JM82 for the explanation. Tags name:sl and name:hu already existed before and name tag contained both names, combined with a "/", as "on the ground" place signs.

It would not be the first time that validation tools wrongfully complain about some uncommon issue. This is why there are some exceptions in the source code of the check - see https://github.com/osm-fr/osmose-backend/blob/master/plugins/Name_Multiple.py

I have reverted this changeset with changeset/84472451

If you think the name tags are wrong there please let's discuss it on the OSM forum https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=785118#p785118

Thanks for not doing it in other places and please refrain from doing so in the future without discussing it first with local community.

All best!

83319071 over 5 years ago

Please stop doing that. I am well aware of the tagging schema and that some validators detect false problems with some local specialities. Please raise the issue with osmose. Removing the name tag is not a valid solution.

83319071 over 5 years ago

If you want to discuss it to are welcome to join us in the OpenStreetMap forum topic:
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=62022

I'd love to hear the reasoning behind this change and what other similar erroneous changes were done in the area.

83319071 over 5 years ago

Hey!
Please don't blatantly delete bilingual name tags, as this is the valid tagging schema in Slovenia.
Please see osm.wiki/Multilingual_names#Slovenia

Please, be so kind and revert this and other similar changesets as soon as possible.

83960373 over 5 years ago

Hvala, do sedaj sem bil prepričan, da to ni potrebno, ampak izgleda, da te vrednosti niso privzete:
osm.wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access_restrictions

62001176 almost 6 years ago

Are you 100% sure that marina Parentium is here??
I know it was 2 bays to the north: osm.org/?mlat=45.2043&mlon=13.5899#map=15/45.2043/13.5899

58737588 almost 6 years ago

Military area around residential area deleted in changeset/79860360

58737588 almost 6 years ago

Tole vojaško področje še kar vztraja... Je možno, da je kdo na takšen način onesposobil nadležnega sosedovega drona?

79095999 almost 6 years ago

Or it could be a subtag of the existing flag tag, eg "flag:emoji"

79123383 almost 6 years ago

I checked the aforementioned book (original arcicles in planinski vestnik and reprint from 2000) and can now understand why the officials had problems understanding it and misplaced many names in the official maps.

It is never a clear cut between options 1 and 2 and some mapper discretion is needed, or else we'd end up with unknown archaic names such as "Dolina zajezerami" and "DraŽki vrh" which would better fit onto osm.wiki/Open_Historical_Map ;)

79123383 almost 6 years ago

I (and OSM "as on the ground" principle) just want to avoid situations where a signposts mismatch the map. Eg someone wants to climb to "Hrustnik", but there is no such signposts, there are only signs towards "Plesišče", but there is no "Plesišče" on his (OSM) map. Or worse, someone needs urgent medical assistance on "Hrustnik" and rescuers are scratching their heads where that is.

I know mistakes happen to us all and we should attempt to fix them. But the fixing should be gradual, eg using both names on map (in the name tag), educating path markers, encouraging them to use correct names, not overnight replacing the names on the maps while the signposts still say the old names.

I know of existence of REZI, but have never inspected it in detail. From what you describe it seems terrible :)

79123383 almost 6 years ago

Great! I did not want to suggest using the names from TTN unconditionally, just that those kinds of mistakes are easy to happen by mappers. Those wrong names crept onto the official maps decades ago, and from there onto many other maps, signposts, people's minds and colloquial use.

Based on OSM's "as on the ground" principle the name in OSM should match the signposts leading to that peak, not some old source (a famous book
by prominent author in this case). Other names should be put into alt_name or old_name tags. If signposts mention various names they can all be put into the name tag.

If Dr. Tuma listed only the names, without exact location it would be an argument to use source:name="dr. Henrik Tuma: Imenoslovje Julijskih Alp" tag (or even source:old_name tag) instead of current source tag ;-)

79123383 almost 6 years ago

The used source tag is very general, i would suggest to use source:name tag instead to make it clear what it refers to (not coordinates or elevation).

Btw, GURS (in their abandoned TTN map, now published by computer museum) named it as Plesišče:
https://ttn.muzej.si/#17/46.35303/13.90343
and "Hrustniki" (plural of Hrustnik) 300m West of that peak