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77892592 about 6 years ago

Hej, pozdravljen!

Za zgradbe namesto landuse=residential uporabi building=yes ali osm.wiki/Tag:building=... nakaj bolj natančnega po
building=*

71642530 over 6 years ago

PZS probably refers to national mountaineering society - https://www.pzs.si/ and the number may be a reference to the path ID in their system, so it is a local reference, which is the reason it is not used anywhere else but in Slovenia. Would be nice to have it documented in wiki.

71631517 over 6 years ago

Fair point about St Moritz being internationally established name in Italian media even if there exists an Italian name.
However, https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sankt_Moritz mentions the Italian name "San Maurizio d'Engadina" as obsolete.
Might be similar to Monakovo (München).

Seeing a map with "Monakovo" would be weird, but "Dunaj" (Wien) or "Benetke" (Venezia) feels natural. Not even Slovenes living in München refer to it by "Monakovo". This is what convinced me to move that name into old_name tag. It has been like that for few years now and noone seemed to be bothered by it.
Btw, München is still missing "Monaco di Baviera" name in some *:it tag. Where would you put it? :)

I am from central Slovenia, visit the Karst region on occasion, but don't know much about the foreign place names for places there. I am very interested in the map internationalisation and support bilingual main "name" tags in officially bilingual regions (where bilingual place & street signs actually exist "on the ground").

I personally am indifferent about putting the Italian names in either name:it or old_name:it - it should be up to native Italian speakers (preferably local in the region) to decide.
I just don't want to see it in the main name tag unless there are actual bilingual signs there.

osm.wiki/Multilingual_names#Slovenia
name:sl=*
old_name=*

71631517 over 6 years ago

old_name is trivial with official administrative renames (eg streets, towns) in official language(s).

It is a bit more fuzzy when it comes to unofficial languages in the region, having no street signs, no mention in recent official documents, no news about it...

Could you ask yourselves what percentage of nearby Italian population (excluding historians & geographers) would know what village you are talking about if you mention it by its Italian name?
What name would the Italian main stream media use if a major world event happened there? (eg a plane with 200 country presidents onboard crashes into the middle of that village)

A similar example with archaic name of a major European city - only few living Slovenes would know what is the city of "Monakovo", but OSM understands it and helps us:
osm.org/search?query=monakovo#map=12/48.1550/11.5418
Also the Slovenian news are referring to it by its native name, not the archaic Slovenian name.

71325457 over 6 years ago

As much as I'd like to just sit back with my popcorn, my love for the OSM community won't allow me to do so. Please keep the discussion civil.

I don't know much about these particular place names, but tagging intuition and experience tells me that old_name:x tag should not require the presence of name:x tag, just for the sake of it (or to keep some validators happy). Also, if the name is still actively and the most used one in language x it should be written to name:x tag regardless of how old it is, or if it was invented by unpopular regime.

70047260 over 6 years ago

If that name is not fully obsolete, but still actively used in Hungary it should be entered in the alt_name:hu tag

70047260 over 6 years ago

Yes, the official names as on the signs should be used, but previous names are welcome to be entered into the old_name and/or old_name:hu tags.

67249407 over 6 years ago

Hey!

I fixed the hungarian name of:
node/6282467219/history

br,
Štefan

64851521 almost 7 years ago

It might also be that only the camper Vans are not allowed to stay there.

59099086 over 7 years ago

Hvala, gvil!

Debata o vojaškem področju poteka na changeset/58737588

lp,
Štefan

58737588 over 7 years ago

Avtocesto je že popravil uporabnik gvil nazaj v unclassified cesto v spremembi changeset/59099086

Kaj je pa s tem vojaškim področjem s stanovanjskimi hišami? Od kod informacija da naj bi to bilo vojaško področje?

lp,
Štefan

59846195 over 7 years ago

Would it make sense to start adding alt_name tags so that:
- it can be found if someone searches for it by that name (the current name will be shown)
- if/when the agreement is ratified it would make it easier to do the change in all languages (preserving current name in old_name tags)

58439899 over 7 years ago

Also thanks for contributing, it was really nice to be able to explore Sarajevo in such detail in the past few days with an offline copy of the OpenStreetMap in OsmAnd. Roaming is prohibitively expensive at 10EUR/MB to use an online map :)

58439899 over 7 years ago

Pozdrav!

I have just returned from Sarajevo and I checked it with my very own eyes that there are multiple cars lined up on the cable, going in circles, not just 2 cars alternating directions.

According to OSM wiki aerialway tag values are:
* cable_car: one pair (exactly 2!) of big cars that go in alternating directions (when one goes up the other goes down)
* gondola: Many smaller cars on a looped cable, always going in same direction

Please see OSM wiki: aerialway=*

Tagging aerialway=gondola is more correct than aerialway=cable_car for this case.

I would love to hear your argument for insisting it should be tagged as cable_car in OSM. (please note that it has no relation to the name of the object itself)

Could you also explain why did you feel the need to delete german and english names of the žičara in the next changeset (changeset/58439913 )?

Also the current note tag is irrelevant in this case, as the gondola is not representing any administrative border. I left it there because it is not wrong, just irrelevant.

best regards,
Štefan

32519542 over 7 years ago

Hey, this veterinary is in the middle of the adriatic sea!

42485163 almost 8 years ago

..instead of water_well?

42485163 almost 8 years ago

Shouldnt these be marked as fire_hydrant?

fire_hydrant=*

56822009 almost 8 years ago

Dobrodošel!

52667492 almost 8 years ago

highway=services (množina!) je povsem legitimno za naša počivališča s črpalkami ipd samo za počivanje pa je highway=rest_area

49678184 over 8 years ago

There is no construction tag on the roundabout (way/300682837 ) since 8 months ago.