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149843868 over 1 year ago

This sort of discussion (all sides of it) would actually be a good one to have over at https://community.openstreetmap.org/ !

150097343 over 1 year ago

Hello,
What does "#irsju" mean?
Best Regards,
Andy

149843868 over 1 year ago

@ablevi202 Taking way/684681276/history as an example, how is someone local to that area even supposed to know that the way was deleted in this changeset? How do we find out what it is now? An "amenity=school" way with a name of "Blackshear School (CLOSED)" is easy to spot as needing a check to see what it is now; a deleted way is not. Both are of course wrong - the former school is presumably either brownfield, housing, industrial or something else, but we won't know until someone Goes And Has A Look.

149827539 over 1 year ago

osm.org/user_blocks/15954

150094405 over 1 year ago

osm.org/user_blocks/15954

149843868 over 1 year ago

I've reverted this in changeset/150071599 for two reasons:
One is that it's essentially impossible to QA deletions in a worldwide changeset as there are no coordinates for deletion in the XML.
Another is that some actions taken here (for example on way/684681276/history ) are surely wrong.
I would encourage everyone to using review objects with these names in their local area with queries such as https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1K2j and decide what is best in each case. Just taking the buildings as examples, some will obviously have been demolished and some not, and local knowledge will often be needed to know which.

150071599 over 1 year ago

Clearly the restored state of these objects (with a name of "closed") is incorrect, but the way that they were previously processed in changeset/149843868 was obviously wrong. I'm restoring to the state before so that people can figure out how best to deal with them.

In some cases "disused:amenity=blah" will make sense; in some cases deletion will make sense (but not in all cases where changeset/149843868 deleted things, for example at way/684681276/history there is surely something on that site now, even if it is only a disused school or a bit of brownfield).

146526294 over 1 year ago

The bit that seems odd to me is that https://osmlab.github.io/osm-deep-history/#/relation/17061996 shows that that multipolygon was created here. What caused this area to show on a maproulette list?

150010220 over 1 year ago

Also ts0700a, same date

149995220 over 1 year ago

Cześć,
Tutaj Andy z DWG. Zasugerowałem, aby obaj użytkownicy zaangażowani w tę „wojnę odwrotną” przedyskutowali ją między sobą i szerzej na polskim forum.
W szczególności poprosiliśmy @Constrado o udzielenie odpowiedzi na pytania zadane im na stronie https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments.php? identyfikator użytkownika=8023523 .
Z wyrazami szacunku,
Andy

149995220 over 1 year ago

Hello,
Andy from the DWG here. I have suggested that both users involved in this "revert war" discuss it between themselves and more widely in the Polish forum.
In particular, we have asked @Constrado to reply to the questions that they have been asked at https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments.php?uid=8023523 .
Best Regards,
Andy

146526294 over 1 year ago

Not sure what happened here, but some islands in the river ended up submerged. See way/692587227/history . I fixed it in changeset/149989605 .

149985523 over 1 year ago

Also south of Gargrave along the canal, from survey 07/4/2024, ts0822a

149858020 over 1 year ago

Hello Papa Rey,
Here you've created a water point in the middle of the sea. That doesn't look very much like valid data. If you want to create bookmarks in MAPS.ME please do that; don't add things to OpenStreetMap.
Best Regards,
Andy

149522811 over 1 year ago

Hello,
Can you please try and use more descriptive comments that "correct location node"?
Best Regards,
Andy

149827902 over 1 year ago

@fortera_au Agreed - Given that https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/queensland-to-classify-roads-based-on-bylaw-data/111652/16 has neither identified any bylaws (in QLD or SA) nor shown that they should directly determine OSM highway values, it would make sense to revert this change. I'm happy for you to do this; or if you prefer I can do it.

149827902 over 1 year ago

> I am just a normal mapper

No, you're not. "normal mappers" don't draw the ire of their local community by just ignoring what everyone else has to say. Normal mappers don't write diary entries targeting their "haters" like yours. Normal mappers don't collect a host of block messages like @slice0/blocks .

If you aren't able to compromise I'm afraid that this may not be the project for you, and perhaps you should refer to the matter of "Arkell vs Pressdram". However if you do want to continue contributing please do start making your case for this changeset in the forum and - most importantly - listening for what other people have to say.

149827902 over 1 year ago

In response to your question elsewhere "how come every thing I do is questioned and even though I have never broken a single OSM policy I get blocked", it's because (among other things) you write diary entries like these: @slice0/diary .

149827902 over 1 year ago

Hang on - following osm.org/user_blocks/15905 and https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/my-apology-to-my-fellow-osm-editors/111649 I'd have expected to see a discussion somewhere about this road clas change before "just doing it" (read the part of the message that starts "Please do not start changing road classes again...").
Was there actually some discussion that we missed, or should this just be reverted pending discussion?

149827539 over 1 year ago

I don't understand "they mainly just help clear confussion in the real world sense."

What actually is the benefit of the "junction=yes" tagging?