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100653444 almost 5 years ago

Hi, basically a track that the public can use.
Russ

68541137 almost 5 years ago

Surely the tag "shop=outdoor" is incorrect here for signalling items. Please change.

73243895 almost 5 years ago

Ah, a dual status lane ... Im confused how to best map them... generally opting for the higher rights. Keep up the great work, Cheers.

73243895 almost 5 years ago

way/190390662 : I'm a little confused as to why the designation of this little section has been changed to footpath. The BANES online map in 2021 shows as a BOAT - has it been reclassified recently ?

54156019 almost 5 years ago

Hi Mike, This lane (Way: 42326884) as far as I know, is still being used by groups of motorcycle riders, following the established UK TET route without any issues.
Unless the road has been physically removed, then OSM convention is we still draw it, and note any restrictions, rather than changing the highway tag to no.
If it is genuinely blocked or closed, could you add in the note tag, something to that effect. I have taken the liberty to change it track for now, but wud welcome your input, as its not an area I have visited for some time personally. Russ.

98386042 almost 5 years ago

NSG - National Street Gazetteer.
I referred to NERC as a light hearted mention of how things have changed since the 80's.
Before this gets into a pissing match, I am using osm.wiki/User:Rjw62/PRoW_Tagging for my guidelines on tagging. If you believe this is not valid, then we better take this to the forum for larger input, & get the Wiki taken down or changed if no longer correct.
The example you refer to ... "Tynings Lane", is maintainable at public expense by the Local Highway Authority, or at least it was when I last checked. If you know that it has since been adopted privately then I stand corrected and will apologise and you may retag if you have evidence of such.

98386042 almost 5 years ago

Most of my UCR info came from maps I marked up in the 80's after copying from the definitive map in the Council offices. That was a long time ago, and way before NERC... lanes dont change, but the designation can. There are some online sources you can look at too such as the NSG to corroborate status, if it does not show on Council ProW online maps (often they don't show UCR's as they are not actually a right of way, per se.) Does that help you?

98386042 almost 5 years ago

Hi Dave, Its the designation we are supposed to use for highways maintainable at public expense.. ORPA's on the Ordnance survey, and UCR's (unclassified county roads) to old school trail riders. Some Councils reclassify to BOAT's after consultation, which is rare, but don't change existing data unless Im sure, hence the comment. Cheers.

98112544 almost 5 years ago

Seems like chopping the Tertiary rd was the issue, not the byway. Careless maybe. Sorry !

98112544 almost 5 years ago

So I'm trying to figure whats happening - Im breaking a way to tag the sections separately, but is the boundary relation getting destroyed some how?
Russ

97901134 almost 5 years ago

Thanks Andy - Yes NP boundaries can be a nightmare (as I found in Thailand). Thanks for fixing. Russ.

77188198 about 5 years ago

We won't agree on this one .....
I don't arbitrarily change roads, and 2019 street imagery confirms that MM167 is the last freshly painted marker heading North on the 106. This also happens to fall on the CM-Lamphun boundary, and coincides with the database, (even if the DB shows the wrong location).
Still heading north, you then shortly see a new Provincial sign, ชม.106 indicating to me, that the National section finishes and the new section, is in essence, a provincial highway.
Yes, this is a new form of sign, and I would expect the DRR logo to be there, but the translation seems to come out as "Provincial Administrative Organisation".
I'm not Thai, and factual info is hard to gain, but being as the road does diminish in size, and I'm guessing the importance went when Hwy 11 was built, I felt the status had to change somewhere....
Im sure all will have a different view, but I have always stated my view that to take out differences in interpretation of importance, we need to follow the official classifications in tagging. This example reflects my work.
Yes, there may be older milestones on the Tertiary section, but I suspect these have never been removed, and as for the signage, well I guess that's serving a purpose so it was left.
Mapping is more an art than a science, and taking all into consideration, I believe I have mapped it correctly and hope it remains unchanged. I will in time, add the correct ref to the tertiary section, with a note.
Russ

77188198 about 5 years ago

Id mind because I dont think its right... I don't mind if you want to discuss on the Forum. A primary highway has physical characteristics which as the roads become more obstructed as they enter a city, surely the tagging has to change at some point.... the "official" mile zero seems a good one/ You may feel the "traffic lights just before the bridge" are more valid, but not me.

77188198 about 5 years ago

I think a waste of time, but be my guest.

85672544 about 5 years ago

That was 8 years ago, and of course, since then, we have had the massive pollution caused by Facebook tagging everything as "residential".
While there may not be a legal definition of a living street as such, in Thailand... roads in walled & secure gated communities in my mind, are of similar characteristics to the European counterparts. Other people continue to tag in this manner, and I feel its the most appropriate tag to use. I endeavour to only use for mapping within clearly defined "housing estates" rather than any small Soi with houses.
If you wish to use your powers to do a mass change, that's up to you ... personally, I think we have far greater issues to worry about.

77188198 about 5 years ago

Yes, I know it probably a bone of contention, but it seemed to make to sense, rather than end it at the bridge in CM. Are the signs you saw actually that of the road, or just directing you to it. The DOH database includes the mile marker positions, so it seemed to make sense to just start the labelling from MM Zero, rather than extend the primary status to where a looks like it might end.
And then should it be primary where clearly it doesn't match the physical description ... but lets not even go down that avenue 55
Just my take on things !
Cheers

84210050 about 5 years ago

As shown in the source tag, the Data originated from the DRR database. Its possible the road will be asphalted in the future, but as of today, no aerial images bear this out.
If a road has a ref, I add it. The construction tag was not appropriate as there was already a track there, and I had no evidence work was being done. To placate your concerns, I have changed it to unpaved minor rd, with the ref as a note only. We can upgrade once a survey or more evidence is found.
But its an ill wind as they say..., as there were a number of other "tracks" in this area that have now become 2 lane asphalted roads, including a new link bridge over the Kwae Noi,... all of which I have now added bringing the map up to date as best we can.
Cheers.

66693658 about 5 years ago

Yes , it was a futile attempt to correct the poor work by the M S Uni. I have since asked you to do a mass deletion of these, with no comment back. I now just delete them when I'm bored, but you cud do for me en masse if you agree.

72981753 about 5 years ago

Hi, This is not the way to tag malaria hotspots... if you want to trace a building, then trace the building outline... if you want to mark an area, then tag it as such.
This is poor sloppy mapping and not in the spirit of OSM. I will change these myself from building to area unless, which more accurately reflects your outlines.

65684707 over 5 years ago

There are many shapes here tagged as areas. They are poorly drawn, often overlap roads, and in many places, have been traced twice. The mapper has not contributed for over a year.
I am removing the worst examples.