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62356072 almost 7 years ago

... and I have also added 4 more bridges on that very road, that actually do connect to the Highway, and you completely missed !

62356072 almost 7 years ago

Way: 618299027 - Dear Miss Wonder woman VLD033, well Im wondering why you created two residential roads that cross a water filled drainage ditch and connect to the Hwy 3412.
Is it an eyesight issue, or just laziness? Do you still work on OSM seeing no edits for 4 months ? Perhaps you have you moved on to saving the planet?
Don't worry, its been fixed now.
Russ.

55164906 almost 7 years ago

Way: 550916432 - Dear Sam, (RVR009) please can you take a little more care when plotting residential roads. Here you have added four roads that go directly through a brick wall which can be easily spotted if you took the trouble to zoom in.
This tardiness has completely destroyed our faith in the abilities of the Facebook team to accurately add roads.
I doubt if you still work there, so I'll fix your errors for you. Russ.

56345952 about 7 years ago

Thanks for the revert.... Russ.

51822103 about 7 years ago

Way: 254090301 - Mr. VLD007 of Facebook. We local guys drew this as a track. Using your unparalleled Californian local knowledge, you changed it to an unclassified road.
While the status can always be argued, the main issue is that it clearly has a dirt surface. Now cars will try to route down it.
If you insist on changing the status our roads, kindly add the unpaved tag unless you have evidence to the contrary !
Russ

59254134 about 7 years ago

Way: 590875116 - This clearly connects to the Hwy 219 at its eastern end.
So dear VLD003, tell us why you just left it hanging in the breeze ?
(Apart from the fact you dont give a damn about the quality of your work, of course).
Why is the Facebook team so intent of reducing the Thai map to a pile of worthless shit with their tardy work?
We are slowly correcting it, but its going to take years.
This one.. fixed now.

60359828 about 7 years ago

Way: 604403966 - why has VLD012 not finished connecting this road to the major Hwy 2081 south of it.
Making these lazy stupid errors just reduces the effectiveness of the Thai map.
The latest imagery shows a paved road all the way through - even older imagery would have shown a track or something similar. Just careless shitty mapping again from the Facebook clowns, I guess.
I have added the missing section.

65004287 about 7 years ago

Thanks - for a bit of background, we are doing a massive revision of the residential roads in Thailand.
Basically a team from Facebook came in and automatically added thousands of roads using Artificial intelligence. The roads were ALL tagged as residential, from airport runways, to peoples driveways. Fortunately, they added an "import=yes" tag to their additions.
Us local mappers agreed that after checking each one, we would delete this tag as a way of showing we had validated it. Thats one reason why some of my edits will have lots of deleted nodes & tags.
I see Mega* has not added to the comments so hope he got the message to think before typing.
Russ.

53242566 about 7 years ago

Dear Alexandra Teixeira - Why have you drawn way/535317893 as a residential way, and split it in a number of illogical places.
While being lazy and not merging ways is hardly a crime, drawing a residential road through what is clearly a number of orchards and farmland, is. In fact I cant see a house for miles. Per our wiki, these should be drawn as tracks.
Dont worry, we will sort the Facebook mess out locally as I expect you have already moved on since you last edit was 5 months ago.... clearly OSM was a just a job to you. Its a passion to us.
I have fixed this shit edit, and a number of others close by, should you ever even get this comment.
Russ

45973996 about 7 years ago

way/253745160 - Any reason why a bridge tag was added to the footpath that runs down to the stream. The notes should be quite clear that the original bridge collapsed.
I have removed it.

65004287 about 7 years ago

Why does it concern you over the size of the changeset - nowhere I have seen, or been told that large changesets are good or bad.
Please explain your reasoning ?
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65003750 about 7 years ago

Tuss - u want me to justify my work to someone with 2 days experience and 1 edit to his credit - are you serious?
However on this occasion only, Ill contribute to your learning:

650660459 - Unpaved roads that follow canals are usually better surfaced than the tracks that serve the fields around them.
Its not a residential road, there are no houses around. Its connects both ends, and likely could serve as a connector for the roads at either end. On that basis its slightly better than a simple track to the fields so gets the unpaved minor road status.

650650932 - This is a feeder road to the farm land and Longan orchards. Its not residential, and has no ref therefore not Tertiary... so its either track or unclassified.
It is unpaved, but looks like normal vehicles can easily use it to get to the last property. Thereon its surface condition is unknown and so its goes down in status to a track from that point. Clearly its unpaved so I added that tag.

The basis for determining classification is clearly stated in the Wiki - have you seen it ?
So what do you think they should be, and why ?

I would appreciate if you stop analysing my edits until you have a lot more experience.

Russ.

64589276 about 7 years ago

Been playing with changeset analyser again ?
Are you aware that Facebook added a multitude of ways that were incorrectly tagged ? Many of these had a surplus number of nodes due to the automated manner in which they were added.
We have a OSM shortcut to correct this, deleting excessive nodes.... perhaps that gives the high count.
Do you ever read the Thai OSM forum ?
Russ

64481757 about 7 years ago

Dear Tuss,

I see you have one edit to your credit and joined OSM yesterday....I guess you have been playing with the changeset analyser and cut and pasted the results ?
You clearly don't live anywhere near Chiang Mai, and have probably never set foot in a forest.

You state these are non-navigable ways - how do you know ? As a matter of fact, I ride them on all on a trail bike, and all the above have been tagged as a track which generally means a 4x4 vehicle will get down them. There are villagers who live along these routes so they do have a purpose and they are navigable. Just because the tree canopy covers them, it does not mean they don't exist !

Regarding some of the ways you mention above :

644397348 – there is a GPS trace showing, but I have not ridden it. I'm not sure why I'm shown as the only editor. Perhaps I split the track in a logical place when adding new.

644393072 – This is the outline of a village. Its part of a relation, I have tagged it with landuse=residential. So what the crap is wrong with that ?

644393073 – This is a double track that is used for access to a village. I have ridden down it. Why the hell should it not be added to OSM just because it runs through a forest. And I have no idea what the heck you mean by circular and overlapping?

644397348 – You say its tagged as residential… its showing highway=track. Did you check ?

If your idea of mapping is to analyse the work of others when clearly you don't have much experience yourself, you are going to find yourself rapidly disliked in the Thai OSM community.

Russ

64279701 about 7 years ago

This shows the importance of not adding roads unless you are sure of a clear way. the Global logic team are guilty of assuming roads exist and I urge you to stop this practice.
Mapping private driveways as residential roads is just polluting our map with bad quality data.
Russ.

64222014 about 7 years ago

You clearly do not understand my comment. The EXISTING way was correct as residential. It stopped where the asphalt finished.
You then EXTENDED the road along a farm track. You should have CREATED a NEW segment with different tags. Clearly your retraining is not working and I feel its time for you to resign from the team.
Russ.

64279701 about 7 years ago

Rakesh, you have drawn in a residential road (way/642049083) which is the driveway to a house, and not only is it private, its is behind a locked gate.
If you insist on adding these sort of roads to justify your existence on the Grab team, then please tag them as service driveway, with a private access restriction.
If you don't know how to, then STOP your edits and seek further training.
I'll leave you to fix this one, or will ask for a complete revert of the changeset.

64222014 about 7 years ago

Its fixed now.

64222014 about 7 years ago

Mr ak Ram - you have chosen to extend way/30477604, which is correctly tagged and has a name, along a farm track and into a garden nursery that sells trees. I know, I live here.
There is no problem in creating a track here, but you should NOT have just extended the residential road. You can clearly see its unsurfaced, and you should have drawn this as a new way, tagged as a track.
Please stop editing and go back for retraining.

56345952 about 7 years ago

I noticed you have created many single nodes tagged as attraction in a considerable number of changesets, this being just one of them.
An example here
osm.org/edit#map=15/16.1327/102.5223
I suspect these are not actual tourist attractions, as if so, there should really be a name tag used too.
Can you explain, or review and delete them ?
Rgds, Russ McDermid.