@Leo. Sympathieke reactie. Tof dat we het eens zijn. Goed dat je de rest ook ff noemt, dan heb ik dat ook op mijn netvlies. Mijn prioriteitsbijdrage is 360 street-level imagery voor Mapillary and Google Street View. Kom natuurlijk dingen tegen op de kaarten die niet (meer) kloppen en probeer daar dan wat aan te doen. In dit geval was het ook een spin-off. Door jouw reactie wel wat geleerd. Een jaar geleden JOSM hier voor Curaçao gebruikt om 'zonering' en 'wijken' op orde te brengen, want die waren aangegeven als politieke boundaries terwijl ze dat niet zijn. Ik heb al die relationships op orde gebracht. Zag vorige week dat ze nu 'incomplete' zijn gelabelled. Heeft mij weken gekost en is dus ook door iemand om zeep geholpen. Mogelijk door degenen die hier met busroutes bezig zijn. Een andere zaak die ik vorig jaar tegenkwam is dat de grens van ons koninkrijk een verkeerde korte naam heeft. Een edit lokte natuurlijk een discussie uit, maar is blijven steken in academisch geharrewar. Indien jij goed ingvoerd bent in de community dan kun je misschien wat gewicht in de schaal leggen dat daar voortgang in komt in het belang van de eilanden. Misschien ook een signaal richting het iD team dat ze een blokkering aanbrengen in dit soort gevallen.
Bedankt voor het herstellen van de schade, want ik heb de kennis niet paraat.

@Leo Slager Prettig dat je dat even meldt. Denk evenwel niet dat je kunt zeggen dat ik ondoordacht en niet serieus handel, dat ik niet alles heb kunnen overzien kun je mij niet kwalijk nemen als de door de community ter beschikking gestelde editor daar niet in voorziet.
Overigens vraag ik me wel af of het handig is om een open omgeving als OSM voor bedrijfskritische complexe toepassingen te gebruiken als busroutes. Mij lijkt dat men niet verder zou moeten gaan dan bushaltes met welke lijnen die aandoen. Als er geen simpele aanpassingen aan OSM meer kunnen worden gedaan omdat er busroutes over wegen lopen, dan vind ik dat een slechte zaak.

@JeroenvanderGun, Thanks for elaborating and caring. I am not enough into OSM to setup a vote. I feel there is a lack of Caribbean representatives anyway to call it a democratic one.
Thanks, Joscelin

Hello Jeroen, much appreciated that you are picking up on this. Originally, I upgraded both this road segment and the whole ringway to Motorway in what I could find as general criteria for such, but someone later changed it to Trunkways.
As for your change in the Dutch descriptions. This touches the fuzz I made about the abreviation used for our Kingdom border (which was not resolved). I do not think that it is correct to include specifics for the Caribbean countries of our Kingdom into specs for The Netherlands as a country, because all four countries have their own law systems. I think it would be best to have different descriptions for all four countries.
We need local OSM bodies. Can tell that departments of Ruimtelijke Ordening en Planning, Openbare Werken en de stichting Kadaster lack funding and OSM and Google Maps are currently not in their scope. I am on my own but am member of our tourism association and recently had a conversation with their new ceo. Hope to create contacts and to raise awareness.
Thanks again.

Fine, I know this structure and if there are so many more, then why is there this ambivalence in naming on the map?

Great, know we are talking. I have no cause in fighting and actually too much on my hand that I should bother about this. However, being at this part of the kingdom is teaching me a lot. Amongst others, how misunderstandings hamper the countries, the special municipalities and there people here.
On a larger scale, I take we can easily agree that someone consulting OSM should get unambivalent info; OSM should help to clarify, not confuse.
I have seen those country tables and the proposal for Aruba to have its own entry.
That would not be correct.
There is an admin_level 3 modelled within the kingdom too. That is wrong too, it does not exist, it is common speech only. I have consulted the former Prime Minister of The Netherland Antilles for that to make sure.
This, of course, is not a conversation that should not be in this spot. I would appreciate someone with plenty of OSM experience and responsibility to pick this up. You?

@A67-A67. As Vinber, you should have asked and wait for my response and not revert a well motivated edit with bureacratic reasoning. I am from The Netherlands the country and have migrated to Curaçao a couple of years ago. It is a constituent country of The Kingdom of The Netherlands. Apart from 3 constituent countries here in the Caribbean, there are also Saba, Bonaire and Sint Eustatius which are governed by the country The Netherlands in Europe. As per the Charter of The Kingdom of The Netherlands, Curaçao, Aruba and Sint Maarten are autonomous countries, but are not sovereign.
To shorten the names of both The Kingdom and the Country to 'Nederland' is creating ambivalence leading to confusion with map users. That of course is definitely wrong in any real world modeling.
As for the discussing this in a community, that would be more than useful if the community would have equal representation of all stakeholders, would have knowledgeable participants and if it concerns something that is not just wrong, but is a matter of viewpoints. None of these is the case.

You should not have reverted my name edit without asking. I have given proper reason in the edit itself. The map should not have ambivalent naming leading to confusion for users. Currently there is no community for the Kingdom of The Netherlands. The community that you are referring to is populated with people from the country of The Netherlands. We should model correctly, avoiding ambiguities.

Hmm, I am sure I checked that one before finishing. Raising suspicion as to what ID supports. Curious to see what you fixed there.

Ok then. Any more? First time actually that someone catches me on errors. So far, I hadn't touched boundaries as they seemed complex to me. Had to clean up the mess for Scharloo and ran into a mess in the edges too.
I need to check if OSM has a definition for something like neigbourhood that is not an administrative area.
Thanks for helping out!

Already suspecting that you are using JOSM. The example link shows the issue just fine. But, in ID Punda is just fine.
I am not a slack user so far. I am on Teams What community is that on Slack?

Oh sorry, should have done that.

In ID I see no failing boundary on this one and the boundaries are correct.

Great that you are checking up. How can I check for these errors myself?

Maybe that you can help on another matter I see. Someone has been requalifying the road over the Julianabrug as a Motorway. That should not be!

Closed the loop as it likely used to be. What is correct, all of these on the island are not administrative boundaries. There do not exist administrations for these areas.

Thanks, see it. Will fix it in a way. Other border parts are strange to see. Locals, like my girlfriend, do not consider Berg Altena to go up to the seashore. It is known that much of government GIS is a mess, on which this seems to be based on.

Hi, ID editor did not show any errors after I finished the edit session. Can you guide me to where to find the error?