Have you seen this? https://revert.monicz.dev/

If you want to change OSM logo, this diary post is not the best place to petition for that.

Oh, but I have. Yet you must have skipped sections 1.3.2, 2.1, 2.3, 3.3, 4.1, 4.5, 5.1, 5.3.

This project still continues to use COPYRIGHTED and TRADEMARKED “OpenStreetMap” name. You have not been given permission to use that branding for this project. It is extremely misleading to call this “OpenStreetMap NG” when this is your personal toy, not an official OSM “next generation” project.

Just because OSM data is free to use, doesn’t mean “OpenStreetMap” name is.

You should rename this project.

Imagery offset is NOT intended for imagery taken at oblique angles. If you are doing that, then you are mapping wrong or don’t understand what it is.

You can still trace buildings, even with skewed imagery. Trace them based on their roof lines, and then move entire buildings to align them with visible corners on the ground.

A big problem with using a single account that hides multiple users is that if one user makes a bad edit, there’s no way to reach them to inform of their mistake, so they will continue to add low quality data, and no easy way to find all edits from that one user. Worse still, if someone intentionally makes malicious edits, your whole account can get banned and all your efforts will go to waste.

EveryDoor is a mobile app that specifically has a mode for adding trees. And its UI can be switched to the Russian language, if your participants are more comfortable with it, as opposed to the English language.

Also, as I mentioned above, MapComplete works on mobile too.

And for less technically savvy people there are various paper maps projects which help with field surveying and recording and then can be used to help input data while back at a computer.

Have you also seen https://mapcomplete.org/trees.html ? And StreetComplete and EveryDoor apps can also map trees while out and about.

Also please see osm.wiki/Organised_Editing

OSM is my hobby on which I (used to spend) quite a lot of my free time. And yes as you said, I was spending multiple hours a day reviewing my osmcha feed and fixing intentional and unintentional mistakes on the map. And yes, one project by overly enthusiastic youth mappers broke me and my will. There were just too many changesets per day from too many people with too many mistakes to review to keep up. So I pretty much gave up. Reviewing is still EXTREMELY important task that not enough people do. Given a choice I’d rather edit and review than write documentation. 🫤

But you neglected to include one extremely important step: after you draw a building based on its roof shape, you have to move and align it to the building’s base. Aligning building to it’s roofline will position it in the wrong location

Considering you made 0 edits, what would you like to include? 🤨

QR codes are convenient on the go, but I don’t think raw information encoded in them should be added as website= values.

For one, such QR codes are often encoded to contain URL shortners, and as website=* states, url shortners should never be used.

Often connected to the first point, URL shortners or just plain URLs encoded in such QR codes often contain tracking url parameters. And such parameters should be tripped out, again, as documented on the wiki.

QR codes are a good starting point in getting the proper value for osm.wiki/Tag:website=, but it shouldn’t be the ending point.

I would highly discourage using raw data from QR codes as the value for website= tag.

What’s exactly did you map? Your account shows 0 edits.. 🤔

Vespucci is a general-purpose mapping app, similar to iD, Rapid and Josm on desktop. It can do everything, but because of that it’s a little bit awkward to use(at least in my opinion).

EveryDoor, on the other hand is a purpose-built app for mapping nodes, such as addresses, businesses, and other features that can be mapped as nodes. (Although it can tag buildings too)

StreetComplete meanwhile is great for “data enrichment”. It adds additional attributes to existing features simply by asking guided questions. Don’t need to know all the proper tags - it takes care of that.

So for example you can map a road with Vespucci and then use StreetComplete to quickly add surface type, quality, width, speed limit, lights, name, etc.

I see you are using Vespucci to map. If you haven’t already, consider checking out EveryDoor and StreetComplete app. Some of the things they do are much faster and easier to do than with Vespucci. 👍

Why did you name this account like this? You don’t need a separate account to use OSMCha. You should be using your main account for it.

I’m strongly against the switch to relations. OSM instead should’ve switched to using vectors. Everything is a node+vector. Then using vectors you can perform matrix operations, which then opens the door for machine learning! Win, win, win! I’ll take my permanent, lifetime seat on osmf board now and you can call me Grand Poobah.

Not my diary, but telling operators what to do isn’t OSM’s job? We map things as they are, not as they’re meant to be.

You don’t exist outside of OSM? You don’t try to make things better in the outside world beyond OSM? Even if you don’t use OSM, don’t you think having 3 different names for the same stop on the same route is confusing?

As the linked map only covers the British Isles, is this really an issue?

Do you have to surrender your Garmin device when you cross the border of the British Isles? The linked map IS the OSM map.

Newer buses locally do have displayed and spoken announcements of stop names on board, but sometimes the name on the stop, the name displayed on the bus and the name announced on the bus are all different - see for example here and here. I’ve used bus_display_name and bus_speech_output_name where these differ.

Wouldn’t it be better for the bus route operator to fix such inconsistencies on their end? That would improve ease of navigation for everyone.

QR code URL in the name is a pretty bad user experience. Font size is small, and to make use of that URL one would have to type it in switching between browser tabs since you can’t select the text from the map. I think such info is better left for details view if they tap on this stop where it can be made into a working hyperlink or at least a selectable text to copy.

The “r” indicates that there’s some sort of real-time display at the stop and the “s” that there’s a button that people can press to hear an announcement saying when the next buses are due. A “t” is shown if there’s just a timetable.

Having different icons for stop “modifiers” is clever, but I think those tiny letters are too obtuse to understand without a legend. Even more so if the user doesn’t speak English. “s” for speech/sound doesn’t make the same association in other languages. Also sounds are relevant for the visually impaired people, who probably wouldn’t see the icons anyway. Similarly for “t” and “r”. You are working with very few pixels, but perhaps some iconography instead of letters would be more universal.