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123897767 over 3 years ago

Hi

> Don't assume things simple. Iran has many Arabs that are Iranian and love their country...
- So they love Iran so much that they say we are not part of Iran and fly the UAE flag? https://www.albayan.ae/across-the-uae/news-and-reports/2017-11-03-1.3088371

> Please leave it in peace as it was with my last edit on it, and don't impose claims into the map.
- OSM is open data not your own, and the DWG previously stated that
"it's actually quite useful to have a way of representing different border disputes in an area (there are many places where two countries claim the same territory, Having a disputed boundaries won't affect how existing "boundary=administrative" relations are processed."

> General rule in OSM is on the ground rule or physical control...
- And still, Crimea is part of the administrative boundaries of Ukraine, how can you explain this?
See relation/60199
I will discuss this in the mailing list later because there is zero difference between Russian annexing Crimea with military power and Iran annexing the 3 islands also with military power, same invasion, different year.

> My problem isn't existence of claims, but turning claims into realities on the map.
- These "claims" as you described them, exist in the reality, see the first link and the previous sources I sent you.

Currently, the countries do not overlap with each other, the only complaint from the DWG was about relation/307763 and relation/304938 overlaps and that was fixed.
Lastly, if you want to edit the boundaries of Sharjah, and Ras al-Khaimah, please discuss this with the local community and tell them that you're about to edit their boundaries and remove the islands.

Regards.

123863964 over 3 years ago

Why did you delete the houses?

123914030 over 3 years ago

Why did you delete the name:ar tag?
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123914936 over 3 years ago

Why did you delete this building?
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123949083 over 3 years ago

Why did you delete the name:ar tag?
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123951144 over 3 years ago

Why did you delete the name:ar tag?
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123951851 over 3 years ago

again why did you delete the name:ar?
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#REVIEWED_BAD #OSMCHA
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123951851 over 3 years ago

again why did you delete the name:ar?
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123951349 over 3 years ago

Why are you deleting the name:ar tags?
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123937830 over 3 years ago

Hello ڕاستی, Why did you changed lots of the names and removed Arabic names like way/366321082 ?

123952258 over 3 years ago

Hello ڕاستی,
Why did you delete the Arabic names from node/4735129987 and way/860516298?
You also changed other names, please explain what you did here.

123897767 over 3 years ago

>did you make any discussion with the community, specially Iranians
- The locals are Arabs and they stated that they are part of the UAE, so when we map, we map based on the locals. Also, I did not remove anything from iran just added disputed borders.
>What actually deserve a discussion, are claims.
-No, imagine discussing Crimea with the Russians, they will deny the disputed borders and say it's part of Russia only, just like you when you deleted the disputed borders from OSM in changeset/123506738 and the Wiki in osm.wiki/w/index.php?title=Disputed_territories&type=revision&diff=2355906&oldid=2355373
>I didn't referred to those points of myself when I .... but I referred to your words
-I did not say to do what you did here. They only mention the overlapping from the DWG was between relation/307763 and relation/304938 only, so I fixed that overlapping for now.
Regards.

120710442 over 3 years ago

*It was incorrect before and correct now.

120710442 over 3 years ago

It is correct, zarih (Mausoleum) is only a cover of the grave, the grave is the main feature.
For example the Pyramids considered as zarih in Arabic, see Wikipedia link above, and we can not say "ضريح فلان" but we say "هرم كذا".

120710442 over 3 years ago

>Thanks. And what about the node? Same rule applies on it? It seems different.
the node indicate the location of the grave (قبر) inside the Mausoleum (ضريح).
You can learn more about this word in Arabic here:
https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/ضريح

120710442 over 3 years ago

>I have question to know what rule you used for fixing them. I can follow it for my possible edits in Iraq.
-local knowledge, local community feedbacks and discussions.

120710442 over 3 years ago

iriman, Here is a screenshot of the private messages with the user who made the edits:
https://tinyurl.com/osmiraqmessages
In these screenshots I explained the name changing for him and gave him other examples of how it's done in OSM. for example "الحرم المكي" is not named as "الحرم المكي المطهر" etc...
His thoughts at first for changing building=yes to building:part=yes is vandal, but we explained this to him with other issues he made later.
At the same time (the day of the edits) this was discussed with members of the local communities also in private messages and calls on telegram.
These edits were also discussed 3 days later in the OSM telegram group:
https://tinyurl.com/iraqosmlink
Please, don't waste our times again, unless you have a problem with the features.
Regards.

120710442 over 3 years ago

Sure, I'll send them in a minute. Just wondering, I have a few questions:
1- Do you have any problems with the changed name?
2- Do you understand Arabic? or did you just see a name change from me and start complaining without understanding? if this is the case tell me, so I won't waste my time with you again, since you've already done it so many times making me explain things to you to understand because you're no local.

120710442 over 3 years ago

Iriman, read the changeset comment, I’ve discussed this with the community and the user who made edits in telegram and he agreed on them.

123897767 over 3 years ago

>we can correct things when we see them.
True, but on border levels, you need to discuss the matter with the community, you can't change anything without discussing for such edits. In this changeset you edited Sharjah Emirate and Ras al-Khaimah boundaries, I didn't see you discussing this with of Sharjah, and Ras al-Khaimah communities.

>Both changesets you linked, only added boundary=claim and have not touched the UAE states.
Wrong, see again.

>About my changeset here, what I changed actually is discussed
No, you said you have points or notes, which I already knew before. You didn't say issues or you disagree with them. Even if we consider this as a "discussion" 1 day is not enough for you to change boundaries when there is no reply.

At the end, please discuss this matter first with the Sharjah, and Ras al-Khaimah communities before you edit their boundaries again.

Regards.