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123906920 over 3 years ago

This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 123897767.

123897767 over 3 years ago

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 123906920 where the changeset comment is: revert undiscussed edit

123897767 over 3 years ago

Hello again iriman, please don't fiddle with any of the islands in the Arabian Gulf region. The island was added to the relation of the UAE states 2 years ago. DWG did not have a complaint about this previously.
if you disagree, you can discuss it where it was first added: changeset/69606798
And: changeset/118277832
Discuss before changing anything.

123563171 over 3 years ago

Hello Andy, sorry for the late reply, I’m extremely busy these days and I guess it’s fine now to change the boundaries from administrative to disputed and remove them from the relation of the UAE so it won't overlap between 2 countries.
And when I’m free I’ll probably discuss this on the mailing list to see if the international community is okay to change it back to administrative.
Thank you.

123563171 over 3 years ago

SomeoneElse, I don't see how this differs from the Crimean Peninsula.
They both mapped exactly the same.
Russia have physical control over Crimea for the last 8 years, it's still part of Ukraine, while Ukraine has no physical control over it.
The Arab League (22 Countries) recognizes the 3 islands as part of the UAE, which means it's the most widely recognized. US, UK, France, and most of the international countries demanded Iran to comply and handle this situation in the International Court of Justice, Iran refuses just like the case with the Crimean Peninsula.
The current situation is that some Arab Emirates locals who live there have UAE passports, they have Arab residents area, they have Arabic schools, they fly the UAE flag on the Island, they say we are UAE citizens, etc...
The UN doesn't recognize these Islands as part of Iran.
We can not apply rules to one area and not the others around the globe.
Regards.

120185536 over 3 years ago

Hello, SomeoneElse,
You mean, Crescent Moon Island Dubai?
way/1014358547
Since when Crescent Moon Island Dubai controlled by Iran?
Regards.

123563171 over 3 years ago

Hello SomeoneElse,

How this differs from Ukraine
relation/60199
And Russia
relation/60189
They both overlap in the Crimean Peninsula.

The current version of the disputed borders is exactly mapped the same as the Crimean Peninsula's disputed borders.

This edit was discussed previously in
changeset/123455005
Then
changeset/123506738

Regards.

123206842 over 3 years ago

Most names were Arabic, 2 mappers changed everything,
@Kurdish%20Map%20Lover and @Diss%20a%20pear
And other mappers map things in Kurdish not in Arabic, for example: changeset/123045080
I try to communicate first but they don't listen or answer.
Best Regards.

123206842 over 3 years ago

Hello SomeoneElse, He was deleting stuff like changeset/123208070
and adding duplicates like
changeset/123579441
And
changeset/123546675
And
changeset/123546032
And
changeset/123519224
And
changeset/123205265
And
changeset/123190588
And
changeset/123150865
And many other duplicates.
I tried to communicate with him but he don't listen and don't answer..
Regards.

123617621 over 3 years ago

Hello Heval, the offical English name in Iraq is Sulaymaniyah, you can add Slemani as an alt_name but not name:en
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulaymaniyah

123579441 over 3 years ago

As I told you before, please stop adding duplicates, it is already mapped.

123506738 over 3 years ago

iriman,

If you disagree with the existence of the disputed tag in OSM, you can start here:
osm.wiki/Template:Delete_proposal
But if you only disagree with the existence of this disputed area only because of "Those claims always rejected by Iranian officials." that is the whole point of the disputed tag existing. No country will recognize the land they occupied as an occupation land.

You said it is controlled by Iran who has full control over the 3 Emirati islands, true, and that is why there is a tag called "controlled_by:country" see: way/1054903303

Here in OSM, we always assume good intentions but removing only this feature that is relatable to your country, ignoring the fellow mappers who trying to inform you that what you did is wrong, and with you removing parts of the OSM wiki too:
osm.wiki/w/index.php?title=Disputed_territories&type=revision&diff=2355373&oldid=2328779 which was reverted by an OSM Wiki admin telling you that "those claims exist". All of these factors making it hard to continue assuming good intentions.

I have reverted your edit in changeset/123563171. Please read carefully what the others had told you, and what I explained to you and try to understand.

Have a nice day.

123546675 over 3 years ago

Please stop adding duplicates, it is already mapped.

123506738 over 3 years ago

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/123563171 where the changeset comment is: Revert vandal edit by a nationalist user, restore disputed boundaries

123563171 over 3 years ago

This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 123506738.

123455005 over 3 years ago

Nothing needs to be changed.
The three Emirates islands shall not be touched as I stated previously.
And about the Farsi Island, I already added it to Iran 3 months ago.
Regards.

123455005 over 3 years ago

Change what? And what will you “fix”?

123455005 over 3 years ago

Hello iriman,
No, it's part of the UAE still. They were invaded, occupied, and annexed in 1971 by an illegal Iranian military force. Maybe you need to read more about the history of the Arabian Gulf to understand its present.
Here is an official government website that states these islands are part of the UAE:
https://saiuae.gov.ae/ar/SAIConference/AboutUAE/Pages/About-UAE.aspx#:~:text=وجزيرة%20أبو%20موسى%20وطنب%20الصغرى%20وطنب%20الكبرى

And here are other websites showing the local Arabs on these Island with the UAE flag as they express their love for their homeland, the UAE, and their loyalty to the UAE President:
https://www.albayan.ae/across-the-uae/news-and-reports/2017-11-03-1.3088371
And:
http://wam.ae/ar/details/1395288812238

The current version follows the OSM guidelines. If you disagree with understanding the disputed OSM wiki, please tell me, how this differs from Crimea?
relation/3788824
It is mapped precisely like it, for example,
way/1054903304 is admin_level=2 which is the same as:
way/238797482

You said "change the borders to the initial state before your very first changes in changeset/120185536", in changeset/120185536 I added the Farisi island boundaries in relation to Iran (you welcome), do you want me to remove it from Iran?

Regards.

123455005 over 3 years ago

Why did you remove claimed_by:country2=United Arab Emirates and claimed_by:country2:code=AE ?
Please don't fiddle with the admin levels too in the Arabian Gulf region, these boarders are disputed.
I have reverted your edit in changeset/123477465.
Regards.

123477465 over 3 years ago

This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 123455005, 123454971.