Thanks for that Jan. Good to hear from you. That little stub was the start of a potential path which is quite clear on the Strava cycle heat map but when I went to walk it there wasn’t enough on the ground to justify mapping - maybe there will be by next year. I forgot to delete it.
Glad you got in touch, I’ve been meaning to message you to say thank you for all the paths you map out here - we’ve been walking on them again today - and to say if there’s anything that I map out here that you don’t like don’t hesitate to change/revert it.
Cheers
John

Good to hear from you Mateusz. Thanks for pointing this out. I see what I (and others) have been doing. When a mapped stile has been changed to a gate by the local authority I have changed the ‘barrier’ tag but not deleted the old ancillary stile tags. I’ll use your overpass turbo search to make a start on putting them right in my area. If you come across any that I miss in the future don’t hesitate to delete the nonsense tags. Thanks again. John

Thanks Andy. Yes - maybe a cut and paste error. I’ve been watching the debate about those errors. Well done for the way you handled that.
Cheers
John

My preferred app ‘Footpath’ also routes down that path. I didn’t think it would!

As an experienced walker and mapper of footpaths I would like to make a utilitarian point. In my area and perhaps all over the country access=private/no/unknown tags on public footpaths are not uncommon and cause problems for all the different routing apps used by walkers and runners - they won’t route down these paths. Decisions about mass edits must be made by people who understand the philosophy of OSM better than me but this edit would probably correct thousands of errors for every unwanted error it created. And the millions of Strava/Komoot etc etc users in the U.K. would notice the difference.

Lifecycle prefix on the turbary roads etc instead of deleting is a great idea! And yes my changeset comments tend to be very inadequate :( My only excuse is that I do all my mapping on my phone and often as I’m walking so lengthy typing is difficult. But again you are right - if I’m deleting paths it is bound to cause alarm so I need to give some explanation.
Thanks for the input. Good to hear from you. John.

Hi Gurglypipe. Good to hear from you. I’ve had two big walks out of Coniston this week and I’m hoping to have a couple more. My creating, moving and deleting paths was based on them. As you may know there are many paths on the map that don’t exist on the ground, particularly in the Lake District and North Wales, making OSM and therefore Strava etc an unreliable resource in these areas. There are two main causes : some were paths and were correctly mapped but are no longer used and have ‘healed over’, others are marks from old structures like turbary roads which don’t exist any more but are drawn in as paths by armchair mappers. The ones near Lingstone Beck come into this second category. Deleting these paths is perhaps more important than drawing in missing paths but I would suggest that you only delete paths if there is no path visible on the ground AND no trace on the Strava heatmap. Cheers. John

That’s great Andy. Glad you noticed. I cycled the White Peak Loop with friends last week and later noticed odd things with the mapped paths around the canal bridge at the end of the High Peak Trail. Sorry I didn’t follow through with my changes to the relation there - I got involved with editing the rest of our cycle route.
I’ve been meaning to get in touch with you about this very thing. The editor that I use almost exclusively on my phone doesn’t allow me to edit those relations and it doesn’t really highlight that relations exist. I try to take care but I have been a little worried that as I’m mapping the paths around Sheffield I might be inadvertently breaking these long distance path relations and you are having to patch up behind me. Hope that’s not the case!
Good to hear from you.
Cheers
John

Hi Paul,
Good to hear from you. I’ve been very aware that I’m back in your territory :). If ever you are unhappy with anything I do please feel free to revert/change/get in touch.
I think you might live in that area - it’s a nice part of the world isn’t it. I will be back up there wandering on the paths quite a lot in the next month or two (but not in the next two weeks - we’re going to Spain) and if you fancy meeting up for a coffee/beer do get in touch. Regular mappers like us are a rare breed and it would be good to chat.
Cheers
John

:) Well spotted Andy. Thanks. I’ll put it in now. Need to go and have a walk around the bit where it goes round Meadowhall before I can finish off the last corner. Thanks again. J

Thanks Tom. I’m afraid it was only a walk through with friends - not a proper survey - so I only improved a few paths. To be honest you keep the footpaths in your area well mapped. I wish it was as good up here around Sheffield. :)

Hi mrpacmanmap. Thanks for updating the Kelham Island boundary. I guess it follows the historic course of the mill race. The mill race now runs due east from the opening on Millsands to join the Don there. Would it be possible to detach the watercourse from the relation and put its current course on the map. Cheers. John Stanworth.

Thanks. :)
John

Yes. We haven’t really got a proper story from Katy have we. When I come across blocked public footpaths here in Sheffield I show the path as far as it goes and put a No Exit tag on the node on the end where it is blocked. I then send a photo and info to the Ramblers.
A lot of my family and friends are keen Viewranger/Strava/Komoot users and blame me when the footpath map is wrong :) That’s what happened when Katy came back from Hutton Roof. But in this case, yes, do put the path back on.
Again, good to hear from you gurglypipe.
Cheers
John

Hi gurglypipe. Good to hear from you. Sorry about my very vague changeset comments. My daughter who is a keen OSM user is just back from a running/cycling trip to the Hutton Roof area. She was dismayed by the number of mapped paths that didn’t exist on the ground. She is normally very reliable so I have made a few map edits based on her survey/runs.
Cheers
John

Hi arte2002
Thanks for that. Yes, using PNOA Espana it’s clear that my original mapping of the path was correct. Glad you noticed! I would be very pleased if you could revert my changeset.
Thanks again.
John

Hi Tom. Nice to hear from you. It was good to meet at the mappers pub meet - it was in Derby I think. I am missing those meets. Hope all is well with you in Wirksworth.
I tagged the building as craft=brewery so that the brewery was searchable on OSM. The principal tag on the node is shop=alcohol which would make it discoverable if you were searching for an off licence but not if you were searching for “brewery”. I feel that the shop and the brewery are separate, different things that need tagging separately. However, having said all that, I’ve just looked at peak ales web site and I’m not sure if that building has either a shop or the brewery in it any more 😄. It seems to be some sort of visitors centre. I think one of us needs to visit it. :)
In the meantime if you feel strongly about it do change the tagging on any of my mapping. I don’t mind. :)
Hope to meet at the pub again sometime.
Cheers
John

PS Don’t hesitate to change any of my mapping that you think is wrong. I don’t mind at all. You don’t need to let me know. :)
John

Yes. I’ve removed it. Thanks both.
Cheers
John

Thanks for that Dave. I must have just seen the start of that conversation about platforms being footways but missed the final conclusion. :)