Good to hear from you Paul. Hope your mapping is still going well. Not a clue about the AED I’m afraid. That changeset was 2 years ago. I’ve mapped many hundreds of them since then and can barely remember ones I mapped last week 😄
Cheers
John

Hi ntzm. Thanks for that and thanks for all the fantastic mapping you are doing around Sheffield. I’m probably just being a bit dim but I can’t see what I’ve done to Glen Road. I remember walking through the area doing bits and pieces as I went but not sure what I’ve changed on that road. If I have messed something up please just correct it.
Good to hear from you.
John

It was a great night wasn’t it.
Yep that certainly sounds like a mistake to me. :)
John

Hi Jan. We walked it last year - there was no trace of a path after the first 10 metres. I walked the first 100 metres from the eastern end again this week - still nothing on the ground after the ruin. And nothing on the heat map! That was also our experience with the paths that run from the end of the track just north of there up towards Tossal Gran and the pass below Castell d’Aixa - nothing on the ground but thorny bushes. I was going to check later them this week and maybe delete parts of them if there is still nothing on the ground. As some walkers in Xalo said ‘the OpenStreetMap is only usable in this area if you know which of the mapped paths don’t exist’. However - you live here and you have done a lot of good work on the map and if you say those lines should still be on the map I will leave them alone. And if you want to meet at Lliber one day to show me the paths on the ground that would be good. :) Cheers. John

Well spotted Robert. Thanks. Don’t hesitate to correct or change or revert anything else I’ve done like that - I don’t mind :)

Good to hear from you Dan. Thanks for your tactful query about this unlikely bit of mapping. :)
“Unexpected” That’s exactly what we thought when we were standing in front of it. Hard to believe they would put one down there. But the format and info in the window all looked right - reference number, collection times etc - and the metal day insert was set to the right day. I wish I’d taken a photograph to send you. But if there is another box somewhere with the same number then it must be a private delivery box I suppose. Despite its unlikely position it all looked so right that we decided we had to map it. But I don’t mind if you delete it. Im not an expert on post boxes. Cheers. John.

:)

Yes. It’s a brand new running track. The only one in the area. Should be operational now. They were just putting the finishing touches to it when we were there a couple of weeks ago. The sports centre manager was very proud of it.
Good to hear from you.
John

:) Yes! Thanks. I’ve deleted it because I can’t remember which path it was meant for. Don’t hesitate to change or revert any other bonkers mistakes. John.

Its object 42559274. The footbridge at the southern end of Sheffield railway station. :)

Hi confusedbuffalo. Running/walking friends have complained that their apps show this footway as open again and their routing software is sending them this way. I understand your reason for remapping it as highway=footway - the relation is still there and the blue route website still shows it going over there! But in the spirit of mapping what is there on the ground - there is no footway - I’ve taken that tag back off. I know this creates a clash with the relation. Part of me feels we should delete the relation! Any thoughts? Cheers. John

Thanks for that Jan. Good to hear from you. That little stub was the start of a potential path which is quite clear on the Strava cycle heat map but when I went to walk it there wasn’t enough on the ground to justify mapping - maybe there will be by next year. I forgot to delete it.
Glad you got in touch, I’ve been meaning to message you to say thank you for all the paths you map out here - we’ve been walking on them again today - and to say if there’s anything that I map out here that you don’t like don’t hesitate to change/revert it.
Cheers
John

Good to hear from you Mateusz. Thanks for pointing this out. I see what I (and others) have been doing. When a mapped stile has been changed to a gate by the local authority I have changed the ‘barrier’ tag but not deleted the old ancillary stile tags. I’ll use your overpass turbo search to make a start on putting them right in my area. If you come across any that I miss in the future don’t hesitate to delete the nonsense tags. Thanks again. John

Thanks Andy. Yes - maybe a cut and paste error. I’ve been watching the debate about those errors. Well done for the way you handled that.
Cheers
John

My preferred app ‘Footpath’ also routes down that path. I didn’t think it would!

As an experienced walker and mapper of footpaths I would like to make a utilitarian point. In my area and perhaps all over the country access=private/no/unknown tags on public footpaths are not uncommon and cause problems for all the different routing apps used by walkers and runners - they won’t route down these paths. Decisions about mass edits must be made by people who understand the philosophy of OSM better than me but this edit would probably correct thousands of errors for every unwanted error it created. And the millions of Strava/Komoot etc etc users in the U.K. would notice the difference.

Lifecycle prefix on the turbary roads etc instead of deleting is a great idea! And yes my changeset comments tend to be very inadequate :( My only excuse is that I do all my mapping on my phone and often as I’m walking so lengthy typing is difficult. But again you are right - if I’m deleting paths it is bound to cause alarm so I need to give some explanation.
Thanks for the input. Good to hear from you. John.

Hi Gurglypipe. Good to hear from you. I’ve had two big walks out of Coniston this week and I’m hoping to have a couple more. My creating, moving and deleting paths was based on them. As you may know there are many paths on the map that don’t exist on the ground, particularly in the Lake District and North Wales, making OSM and therefore Strava etc an unreliable resource in these areas. There are two main causes : some were paths and were correctly mapped but are no longer used and have ‘healed over’, others are marks from old structures like turbary roads which don’t exist any more but are drawn in as paths by armchair mappers. The ones near Lingstone Beck come into this second category. Deleting these paths is perhaps more important than drawing in missing paths but I would suggest that you only delete paths if there is no path visible on the ground AND no trace on the Strava heatmap. Cheers. John

That’s great Andy. Glad you noticed. I cycled the White Peak Loop with friends last week and later noticed odd things with the mapped paths around the canal bridge at the end of the High Peak Trail. Sorry I didn’t follow through with my changes to the relation there - I got involved with editing the rest of our cycle route.
I’ve been meaning to get in touch with you about this very thing. The editor that I use almost exclusively on my phone doesn’t allow me to edit those relations and it doesn’t really highlight that relations exist. I try to take care but I have been a little worried that as I’m mapping the paths around Sheffield I might be inadvertently breaking these long distance path relations and you are having to patch up behind me. Hope that’s not the case!
Good to hear from you.
Cheers
John

Hi Paul,
Good to hear from you. I’ve been very aware that I’m back in your territory :). If ever you are unhappy with anything I do please feel free to revert/change/get in touch.
I think you might live in that area - it’s a nice part of the world isn’t it. I will be back up there wandering on the paths quite a lot in the next month or two (but not in the next two weeks - we’re going to Spain) and if you fancy meeting up for a coffee/beer do get in touch. Regular mappers like us are a rare breed and it would be good to chat.
Cheers
John