Hi 8212,

My team is mapping in this area and saw you added a few cycleways.

We've been adding similar looking roads as highway=path as we figured that they probably support motorcycles and pedestrians as well.

Since you seem to have local knowledge of the area, can you confirm if these are strictly for cycling or serve other purposes as well? We are new to Vietnam and want to map according to local tagging conventions.

Thanks for the help!
Jeff

Hi angys,

On the peninsula, we are currently working on projects centered around Kluang as well as Gua Musang. Our teams do jump around a little bit though to avoid causing editing conflicts with each other.

We have a couple of projects slowly wrapping up in East Malaysia as well.

-Jeff

Thanks for the response!

My team was mapping in the area and was curious where the data came from.

-Jeff

Hi roadless,

I ran across your massive contribution in Malaysia. Great work!

I was wondering what source are you using to determine these roads are abandoned?

Thanks,
Jeff

Hi rab,

The layers are very similar but not always identical. They are the same Maxar imagery product but generated at different times so you may see more up to date imagery in one over the other in some places.

If you would like to view the FB maxar imagery layer its available in our RapiD editor here mapwith.ai/rapid

-Jeff

Thanks for the info!

Hey freebeer,
Looks like our import=yes tag got partially deleted on this one. I corrected it.

Do you have your overpass queries shared somewhere? They seem valuable for our own QA processes.

Thanks,
Jeff

Hey, freebeer,

Looks the mapper before us made the tagging mistake but I'm happy to fix it.

Thanks for the feedback,
Jeff

Hi freebeer,

I suspect this way was split from the bridge segment next to it. W is used for wireframe mode in iD so chances are that bridge was selected, then the user hit W and overwrote it.

Thanks for heads up on bad tag, we appreciate the feedback.

-Jeff

No problem. Fixed that as well. I suspect the issue was the users typing out a tag then trying to use the hotkey to hide map data, which in our version of iD was N.

Thanks again for the heads up,
Jeff

Hey Pascal,

This is just a temporary artifact of some awkward gridding on a tasking manager project. The rest will get filled in as the adjacent tasks get done.

-Jeff

Ah, I can talk to them and let them know that it's ok for community members to remove it when they do further editing.

We run through our projects after completing all of the tasks and do cleanup on the whole area so keeping import=yes on a road will help us identify our work during that process, which is why they asked you to keep it for now. However, if you are happy with the road as is, feel free to remove the tag.

-Jeff

Hey freebeer,

Adrian isn't active anymore but was part of my team. I'm not sure what the typo was supposed to be here but I corrected the mistake.

Thanks for letting us know about it!
-Jeff

Still not the right way in the link :)

But perhaps you meant this one way/700956583/history ?

If that is the case, it was a version 1 because the RapiD based way was split during this clean up changeset to add a bridge.

Our initial changesets will have RapiD as the created_by tag. You can view an example of one here changeset/73360105 .

After the data is uploaded in RapiD we clean up the area with JOSM as it works better for large scale cleanup and validation. Generally, this cleanup involves some splitting and merging so you might some version 1 features, but largely the work should be done in the RapiD changeset. So you will see changesets using both RapiD and JOSM spread throughout.

I agree that import=yes is a slight misnomer though. When we began this work a few years ago in Thailand, the concept of AI assisted mapping wasn't really well understood yet so we used the term import as it was the closest analog. However, we consider it a fairly temporary tag that can be removed as people further enhance the data over time. It was just important that we properly marked our data for people to see exactly what was ours.

Thanks again for the feedback!
-Jeff

Hey Joseph,

The way you linked seems to be incorrect so I'm not sure which road you are referring to.

All of our mapping efforts in Indonesia are using RapiD data though. Of course there is human validating as well as hand drawing plenty of missed areas. After the initial mapping we come through using JOSM to run more validation checks and blend together our task squares which is what this changeset is.

If you would like to try RapiD yourself, you can go to mapwith.ai and choose one of the start mapping options.

Hope you check it out :)
-Jeff

Hi Joseph E,

I lead the editing team at Facebook. As freebeer mentioned this is part of our AI assisted mapping of Indonesia so we have been using the import=yes tag to let the community identify our roads.

We always appreciate local feedback on mapping schemas as they tend to be a little different all over. We have been tagging plantations as service roads based on the Indonesia tagging wiki as well as guidance from our partner, HOT Jakarta. I see that user Jeisenbe has just altered the wiki on August 10th and removed plantations from the service road list but before that, it was listed as the appropriate tag for these areas so it seems like there is some disagreement amongst the community. However, if the consensus is to use track instead then we will of course use that going forward.

Thanks for feedback,
Jeff

Hi theworldmapper,

Thanks for your contribution to OSM! It looks like you accidentally duplicated a lot of roads in this area. Can you take a look and clean up any duplicated data?

Thank you!
Jeff

That's a great question!

We are using AI predicted roads as our starting point for this data, but our mappers validate and further edit all of it to ensure quality. So this data is not really a traditional import but rather an accelerated mapping tool.

Since the generated roads require editing, we grid it up using a tasking manager and only generate (and manually draw) roads to the task borders to avoid duplicates.

After a project is completed, we do cleanup work to remove traces of the individual tasks, including merging ways at the border and resolving any conflicting road tagging. Which is what you were seeing with this changeset.

Hope that helps to clear up the workflow.

-Jeff

Hi pitscheplatsch,

This is cleanup work from one of our tasking manager projects. The deletions are from merging together adjacent ways.

-Jeff

Sorry about that, it was an unintentional upload of a project grid. Thanks for fixing it!