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155863277 over 1 year ago

Please do not bluntly removed aerodromes when closed - I was near to re-adding it. Better to tag as disused:aeroway or even historic:aeroway, so as to leave some memory

143928883 over 1 year ago

Yes I did many more edits like this.
No I cannot be absolutely sure.
Still I did check satellite imagery, and it looks like a runway not right above the river but rather just next to it, as is not unusual for runways - such places are little useable for agriculture, so that farmers sometimes rent them out at favourable rates.
However, if you have local information, which I admittedly have not, please do improve on our database as you see appropriate!
Also, my source was already indicated at creation time. If you need the full detail, surf to https://ourairports.com/airports/AT-0017/changes.html
M.fr.Gr.,

155364333 over 1 year ago

Then again, you seem to have your own ideas about aerodrome codifiction. Perhaps you could propose a detailed scheme somewhere on the wiki, that we could discuss, and tweak, to come to a consensus? Mind you, it should be universal, not just limited to your own territorium.

155364333 over 1 year ago

I SAY AGAIN:
Any reference that is not global or universal is, by definition, local.

155364333 over 1 year ago

And yes, our wiki very explicitly states that ref= should not be used on aerodromes.

155364333 over 1 year ago

Any reference that is not global or universal is, by definition, local.

155364333 over 1 year ago

From aeroway=aerodrome:

ref=* Instead of using this key for an airport code, use more specific keys, such as iata=*, icao=*, faa=*, local_ref=*

A bit hard to understand, perhaps, even after several communications?

155039998 over 1 year ago

Why adding "displaced threshold" to the full runway length? I do not understand, and intend to revert.

94519157 over 1 year ago

Dear, thank you for your close look!
Please refer to https://maps.aopa.ru/#lon/44.860833/lat/48.730300/z/15/ll/avs/p/11684
which is where I found the runway information. Mind you, this is not official data, no gurantees of reliability!
Kindly from far-away Portugal,
Paulinha aka Carlos aka Karel ADAMS

153588615 over 1 year ago

Thank you, I am glad that it is ignorance rather than vandalism. Excuse me! That said, I am afraid that I cannot be of more help: the aeroway=x tags are now back to correct, and as you have observed these are my main execution. Other improvements would require local knowledge, best of all physical access, and I am far away...
Kind regards!

153588615 over 1 year ago

At a second thought: it seems queer that the rectangle with both runways is NOT tagged as military area. The same goes for the area to its south-east. I am not acquainted with the place but it seems clear to me that a lot more area should be tagged as military.

153588615 over 1 year ago

I do not argue that fact, indeed it seems obvious that it is military area. But there are other ways to map that. And my main objection and reproach is that you replace the correct "aeroway=apron" tag by the incorrect "aeroway=aerodrome".

152931728 over 1 year ago

I am not convinced that this aerodrome has disappeared. The local skydive club announces activities for this very weekend! Cfr. https://tandem-skydive.ru/index.php/novosti
Smells of vandalism to me, I intend to revert.

153588615 over 1 year ago

This changeset looks like vandalism, I intend to revert. Of ourse I am well aware of the delicate situation in Ukraine - and I have every sympathy with the Ukrainian people and nation! - but it is extremely naive to believe this kind of change will hinder the big bad bear in any way.

153047774 over 1 year ago

Regarding the "heliport" on the parking lot: I would rather call it a helipad. "Heliport" suggests some infrastructure, hangar, fuel pump, perhaps even an office cum passenger accomodation. Here there isn't even a windsock, as far as I can see on www imagery.

152750400 over 1 year ago

And, err, I hope you are aware that, according to your very personal and somewhat unusual criteria, there are several hundred aerodromes in Russia that should be tagged as disused? Go ahead! Do not care what others say, YOU are right! No discussion!

152750400 over 1 year ago

I give up. Have it your own way and please stop whining.

152750400 over 1 year ago

And no, not all farmland is INTENDED to be used for aircraft movements.

152750400 over 1 year ago

What code? I am only aware of code "ZC96" and that is from a non-official source, https://maps.aopa.ru The field does not have an ICAO code, as far as I can see, nor does it need one.

152750400 over 1 year ago

Aerodrome [ICAO, Annex 14] A defined area on land or water (including any buildings,
installations and equipment) intended to be used either wholly or in part for the arrival,
departure and surface movement of aircraft.