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152750400 over 1 year ago

From a source we are supposed to avoid using :)
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Pskhu+Airport/@43.3853853,40.8160407,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipMDpbpTX_e81i9RLZHwfms6bt21S36cZugDExH7!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMDpbpTX_e81i9RLZHwfms6bt21S36cZugDExH7%3Dw203-h152-k-no!7i4000!8i3000!4m7!3m6!1s0x405f52ee275edbab:0x749aa5a6f2d0b4a9!8m2!3d43.3853853!4d40.8160407!10e5!16s%2Fg%2F1214gcnr?entry=ttu
Mind you, the date in the picture could have been faked, I have no way to detect or verify that.
Kind regards!

152191600 over 1 year ago

Hm, there's a funny smell about this changeset. Any sources or references?

151618906 over 1 year ago

I changed aeroway=aerodrome to aeroway=heliport. I thought that was obvious to see. Compare version 4 to version 5 and you will see.
And yes, I kept the comments minimal, given that we're indeed in Ukraine.
Allow me to add that I already had a similar discussion with Andy from the DWG, and, out of respect for his person and hisfunction, I promised to not do anything substantial in Ukraine.
But I am unhappy being lectured like this over a minute change that does not modify anything essential.

151618906 over 1 year ago

It is not I who tagged the area as military. Barking up the wrong tree, boy.
Besides, I am not impressed with the request to not map in Ukraine, it deoes not show any community support, may as well be one single person's initiative. And be sure that the big bad bear will not rely on open data, having much better sources of information.
Let it be clear, though, that I have every sympathy with the Ukrainian people and nation in their struggle!

151513652 over 1 year ago

Caro Rui,
I hope and trust you are not too much upset when I reverted your change to the out area of Ovar Air Base. You may wish to refer to osm.wiki/Aeroways#Traps_to_avoid
Also, be aware that maproulette is not moderated, anybody can post their personal whims there without realising the consequences! Generally, one should think twice before entering upon a request in maproulette.
Kindly from Ansião!

151442760 over 1 year ago

To do it right: add a note to your edit, pointing out your source of information.
Cheers!

151442760 over 1 year ago

Very nice of you to discusss before acting, much appreciated. I took the elevation from the source I mentioned: https://aterriza.org/?s=alcocer But that is not an official source, it may well be inaccurate. Please feel free to go ahead, I will not interfere!

149514350 over 1 year ago

Y-a-t-il vraiment un aerodrome? Non visible sur photos satellite, non mention sur basulm.fr , ... ?

147750289 almost 2 years ago

I have opened discussion at the wiki's relevant talk page: osm.wiki/Talk:Aeroways#Vertiport

147750289 almost 2 years ago

On second thoughts: how's about "aeroway=vertiport"? That is new and unedited, but I think a certain degree of boldness must be permitted.

147750289 almost 2 years ago

Aaargh, and I just did retag it as a helipad. Feel free to revert!
But, for what I can make from your words, this would perhaps be a place mostly or even exclusively for operation of drones? We do lack dedicated tags for that, as yet we come nearest with model_aerodrome.
Where to discuss, perhaps on some talk page of the wiki?
M.fr.Gr.,

147750289 almost 2 years ago

I am unhappy with the use of a second "aeroway=aerodrome" tag. Is this really a separate aerodrome? I intend to retag as "aeroway=helipad".

147407475 almost 2 years ago

What has been mapped is only the runway, not the complete aerodrome.
Also - and more important - I understand there is a moratorium on the mapping of aerodromes in Ukraine, since there is no consensus about how to handle them. Some people wish to avoid publishing potentially strategic information. Not that I believe in that myself.

147004341 almost 2 years ago

Thanks!

147004341 almost 2 years ago

Thanks, Dan! Unfortunately I am at least as ignorant as you on the way to undo your changeset - if Matt cannot do it, we could call on the DataWorkingGroup.
Be assured that I bear no grudge, we all make mistakes in our own time, and this OSM thing is getting very complex and correspondingly delicate.
Very kindly,

147025055 almost 2 years ago

Hm, I am quite willing to go along with that. It seems obvious that there is quite a distance between the official information and the actual state of things "on the terrain". Please feel free to update as you see right - I am after all far away, and can only go by www information and images, and I know they are not always reliable.
Thanks for constructive collaboration!

147004341 almost 2 years ago

There's a good question, Matt, or at least one that I totally concur with. I would not object to reverting this entire changeset, but in courtesy we ought to wait for a response from Dan, for a couple of days at least.

147004341 almost 2 years ago

The airstrip was already neatly given in way/387215767, and we should avoid double entries. I intend to remove.

146617215 almost 2 years ago

This is double information, the aerodrome is already given very well in way/47249361. I intend to remove.

146147379 almost 2 years ago

Okay, I can live with that; but it should then be tagged with historical:aeroway=aerodrome or some such.
It is obviously not an active aerodrome today, and should therefore not be mapped as such.